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#177 Sep 27 2009 at 6:14 PM Rating: Good
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I really can't believe the last ten or so posts just happened.
#178 Sep 27 2009 at 6:48 PM Rating: Excellent
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::Nuclear reactor critical::

Meltdown > Y/N?
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#179 Sep 27 2009 at 7:04 PM Rating: Good
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Sounds like a problem for the fully automatic sniper rifle.
#180 Sep 27 2009 at 10:45 PM Rating: Excellent
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Let's get back to the point, though, that Kaolian's opinion on waterboarding is shallow, immature and shows that he doesn't even have enough knowledge to admit what he doesn't know--namely, anything about the psychological impact of waterboarding and the definition of torture. For example, if you want to really do horrible damage to someone neurologically, you put them in a sensory deprivation situation and you can often trigger a psychotic break or cause some serious neurological damage over a number of years. There doesn't have to be visible scars for something to have a profound negative, lifelong affect on someone and be considered within the realm of torture.

If it is trolling, well, I bet Varrus thinks he's funny.
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#181 Sep 28 2009 at 12:07 AM Rating: Excellent
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#182 Sep 28 2009 at 3:58 AM Rating: Good
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Let's get back to the point, though, that Kaolian's opinion on waterboarding is shallow, immature and shows that he doesn't even have enough knowledge to admit what he doesn't know--namely, anything about the psychological impact of waterboarding and the definition of torture. For example, if you want to really do horrible damage to someone neurologically, you put them in a sensory deprivation situation and you can often trigger a psychotic break or cause some serious neurological damage over a number of years. There doesn't have to be visible scars for something to have a profound negative, lifelong affect on someone and be considered within the realm of torture.


Ok, and here is a really good tip if you want to cause enduring psychological damage. Speak/Act extremely nice to them while whatever other methods are going on. You'll ruin their ability to form any sort of relationship with other people. But still, torture is a terrible tool for information gathering.
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#183 Sep 28 2009 at 5:15 AM Rating: Excellent
That was pretty retarded Kao, even by your standards.
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#184 Sep 28 2009 at 5:38 AM Rating: Excellent
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you wern't breastfed, were you?
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#185 Sep 28 2009 at 5:48 AM Rating: Good
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Let's get back to the point, though, that Kaolian's opinion on waterboarding is shallow, immature and shows that he doesn't even have enough knowledge to admit what he doesn't know--namely, anything about the psychological impact of waterboarding and the definition of torture. For example, if you want to really do horrible damage to someone neurologically, you put them in a sensory deprivation situation and you can often trigger a psychotic break or cause some serious neurological damage over a number of years. There doesn't have to be visible scars for something to have a profound negative, lifelong affect on someone and be considered within the realm of torture.


I'm curious is there anything we can do to get information out of uncooperative terrorists?



p.s. and for the record harsh interrogation techniques do work. Simply saying these methods don't work is absurd and propaganda driven.



Edited, Sep 28th 2009 9:50am by publiusvarus
#186 Sep 28 2009 at 5:51 AM Rating: Excellent
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We can bake them muffins! Delicious muffins! But not bran muffens. that might hurt their feelings.
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#187 Sep 28 2009 at 5:53 AM Rating: Good
Haha, you're such a knob. Why would you even bother rating me down for this? How old are you again?
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#188 Sep 28 2009 at 6:02 AM Rating: Excellent
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12. And one might wish to drop the name calling. It's not really necessary.
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#189 Sep 28 2009 at 6:13 AM Rating: Decent
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#190 Sep 28 2009 at 6:13 AM Rating: Good
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This is a good thread.
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#191 Sep 28 2009 at 6:18 AM Rating: Excellent
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12. And one might wish to drop the name calling. It's not really necessary.


So, let me get this straight. It's ok for an admin on this site to call a poster a "bed-wetter"? Or to imply that he had sexual relations with the poster's sister? Or to rate-down anyone who calls them out for it? Is that kind of behaviour really considered "professionally acceptable"?

I don't mind your retarded opinions on foreign affairs and torture, that's fine. Everyone is entitled to saying stupid things.

But, surely, if you're willing to gratuitiously insult individual posters, you should have the balls to take the responses to those insults like a man. And by "man", I don't mean "overgrown baby who abuses the tiny power they have in order to compensate for some deep-seated psychological issue(s)".

So yeah, that's what I have a problem with. If it's ok for you to needlessly insult people, surely it's ok for people to insult you back. Wouldn't you agree?
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#192 Sep 28 2009 at 6:42 AM Rating: Excellent
Kao is the thinnest-skinned poster on this site, Red, I'd be careful. I mean, he is the only poster I can think of that actually has a "taboo subject" none of us are allowed to broach without repercussion up to and including bannination. He probably doesn't really belong in the Asylum, or as a moderator, but we can hope that with the changes going on around here perhaps Kaolian finally gets his walking papers. Probably be too little too late though, in my opinion.
#193 Sep 28 2009 at 6:51 AM Rating: Excellent
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Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
what if we gave them a rubber ducky whilst waterboarding them? or maybe some bubble bath? would that make it more humane for you liberal bedwetting pinko hippies?


So Varus IS your sock. I've often wondered.

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#194 Sep 28 2009 at 6:54 AM Rating: Excellent
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I read that as "bedwetting pink hippos" which was much more entertaining.
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#195 Sep 28 2009 at 6:57 AM Rating: Excellent
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I read that as "bedwetting pink hippos" which was much more entertaining.


Aww, they must be baby girl hippos.

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#196 Sep 28 2009 at 6:59 AM Rating: Excellent
Well, I just don't think it's right for paid employees to insult the people who basically pay for their salaries. I may be wrong about this, but it seems to me that Kao is doing this during working hours. It seems quite unprofessional. Maybe everyone accepts this around here, maybe it's considered normal business practice, I don't know. That's what I was curious about.

I know that in my job, I can't go around insulting my clients during working hours. I'm supposed to be, what's the word, "working". Don't get me wrong, abusing people who react when you belittle them is always fun, but just maybe not during work hours. And maybe not using the tools I was *specifically given* to perform my job.

I can see how a 12 year old could be tempted to use admin "powers" to "win" arguments, but I expected more from someone who's been doing the same job for, what, 9 years now? That's why I said it was "retarded". I suppose I should've said "unprofessional", but this being the Asylum, I figured we could have a grown-up discussion about this. But whatever, I'm quite looking forward to receiving a condensed resumé of my rating history.
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#197 Sep 28 2009 at 7:01 AM Rating: Excellent
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I don't even care about all that. It's a message board; by all means participate.

What gets me is the blatant hypocrisy.

"You're not s'pose to call me stupid, STUPID!"

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#198 Sep 28 2009 at 7:04 AM Rating: Good
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I don't even care about all that. It's a message board; by all means participate.


I don't know, one Varrus seems just about enough.
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#199 Sep 28 2009 at 7:53 AM Rating: Good
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And while I don't think the sorts of interrogation techniques being used are "good", I think we have to look at it as a relative issue. It's "better" than pulling off people's fingernails, or cutting off parts of their bodies.

Come on Gbaji, according to Kao they're just getting an enhanced manicure.
#200 Sep 28 2009 at 4:14 PM Rating: Good
So, all you waterboarding "isn't that bad" types...

If it's such a valid tool for interrogations, why don't our police forces use it? Why wasn't Timothy McVeigh waterboarded to find out if he had accomplices? So far we've only done it on Muslim "terrorists" out of the country.

Why? Because it's frikken torture.
#201 Sep 28 2009 at 4:39 PM Rating: Excellent
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I think that reading gbaji's posts constitutes as torture due to the mental anguish brought on by mind-scalding tedium. Hence, I propose that gbaji be banned by the Geneva Convention.
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