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#252 Sep 14 2009 at 1:03 PM Rating: Default
Samy,

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According to virus they're named "you people".


And according to you they don't exist.

#253 Sep 14 2009 at 1:07 PM Rating: Excellent
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I must be on drugs because you people don't exist!
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#254 Sep 14 2009 at 1:10 PM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
I must be on drugs because you people don't exist!

Obamacare will actually pay to keep you on those drugs in order to keep you distracted from the death panels.
#255 Sep 14 2009 at 2:03 PM Rating: Default
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Obamacare will actually pay to keep you on those drugs in order to keep you distracted from the death panels.


Close...Obamacare wants to keep grandpa drugged so the govn doesn't have to pay for his new hip, all that unnecessary surgery, or chemo. That's for the death panels to decide.


Edited, Sep 14th 2009 6:04pm by publiusvarus
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I'd like to get on to one of these Death Panels. Who do I talk to about this?

Do we get to wear Grim Reaper robes and carry scythes?
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#257 Sep 14 2009 at 2:11 PM Rating: Excellent
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AND TALK LIKE THIS ALL THE TIME?

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#258 Sep 14 2009 at 2:16 PM Rating: Good
publiusvarus wrote:
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Obamacare will actually pay to keep you on those drugs in order to keep you distracted from the death panels.


Close...Obamacare wants to keep grandpa drugged so the govn doesn't have to pay for his new hip, all that unnecessary surgery, or chemo. That's for the death panels to decide.


Edited, Sep 14th 2009 6:04pm by publiusvarus


Your thought process really boggles my mind, sometimes. I mean, really, it's disturbing.
#259 Sep 14 2009 at 2:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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I know. I bet he has reams of paper covered with "All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy."

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#260 Sep 14 2009 at 2:30 PM Rating: Decent
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I know. I bet he has reams of paper covered with "All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy."

Weird. I pictured varrus like a semi-retarded Scrooge McDuck, but instead of swimming in his vault full of money, he's stuck in a vault full of silly putty.
#261 Sep 14 2009 at 2:55 PM Rating: Good
Naw, he's a good ol' boy like 90% of small business owners here in the south.

They like to pretend they pulled themselves up by their bootstraps, or their ancestors did, conveniently ignoring the white male privilege that allowed them to do so without much effort.

And thus, they are unable to comprehend the idea that someone else might actually have trouble doing that sort of thing. That a bank might turn down a business loan because of the color of someone's skin, or that a particular music program might only accept males because "girls don't play trumpet" (that exact situation happened to me as recently as 1999.)

What do they lack? Empathy. And they're proud of it! They're proud of the inability to reflect the feelings and emotions of those around them. They're proud of the fact that they are mentally incapable of putting themselves into another person's shoes.

Those of us outside the good ol' boy network can only grit our teeth and put up with it, until such a time as we can leave the south and all its Neanderthal ways.
#262 Sep 14 2009 at 3:52 PM Rating: Decent
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Ummm... which people are we talking about? Do they have names?


They weren't named in the article you posted earlier, but that didn't apparently bother you then.
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#263 Sep 14 2009 at 4:30 PM Rating: Excellent
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publiusvarus wrote:
Bard,

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Obamacare will actually pay to keep you on those drugs in order to keep you distracted from the death panels.


Close...Obamacare wants to keep grandpa drugged so the govn doesn't have to pay for his new hip, all that unnecessary surgery, or chemo.


How is that different from a lot of private insurance out there now?
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Ummm... which people are we talking about? Do they have names?
They weren't named in the article you posted earlier, but that didn't apparently bother you then.

The people in my article saying that were will an enforcement mechanism were the Kaiser Family Foundation, a non-profit/non-partisan organization related to health care and the Congressional Research Service which said that the health care commissioner would be responsible for coming up with such mechanisms. Neither of these parties seems as though they'd have weighed in on the use of the IRS to track falsified Social Security numbers.

So maybe, instead of pouting and giving sulky answers like an angry 14 year old, you could just answer the question? You know, instead of relying on the ole "anonymous liberals you just know are out there" thing? Could you?

No? Didn't think so.

Edited, Sep 14th 2009 9:14pm by Jophiel
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#265REDACTED, Posted: Sep 15 2009 at 5:56 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Cat,
#266 Sep 15 2009 at 6:17 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm all for charity


I seriously doubt this.

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Incapable...no...unwilling absolutely.


Unwillingness to put yourself in another's shoes is the very definition of lacking empathy. So now you know what it means.

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#267REDACTED, Posted: Sep 15 2009 at 6:23 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Samy,
#268 Sep 15 2009 at 6:28 AM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah, pity and empathy are not the same. That's why we have different words for them.

Good job unloading that okra, though.

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#269 Sep 15 2009 at 6:43 AM Rating: Excellent
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Unwillingness to put yourself in another's shoes is the very definition of lacking empathy. So now you know what it means.


Feel free to empathize with all ignorant people of the world. I try to spend my free time making a more substantial contribution to the welfare of my neighbors. Like giving away vegetables from my garden. Feeling sorry for someone because they've had it rough serves absolutely no purpose and is in fact counterproductive.

Feeling sorry for them is not the useful point.

Understanding what they have been through and are going through, understanding their life situation in all its facets, all the social things that happened and didn't happen to them, the environment that they had to work with, that's the purposeful and productive point.

Because there are structural things that get in the way of some people looking after themselves. There are structural things that actively destroy some people. Understanding those structures and changing them is important.

It's great you give away vegetables. That's a short-term stopgap, and a very beneficial one, because it raises nutrition, which helps a little for to people make good decisions on.

But you need to know why people fail. Because it's NOT just because they make poor decisions and that they don't put any effort in. Only when you have a well targeted safety-net that removes outside reasons for people's failure to be self-supporting, that's when you can look at the people who've "failed" and shrug and leave them to the mercy others...private charity.

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I give away spaghetti squash. Mainly because we have a fuckload of spaghetti squash.
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#272 Sep 15 2009 at 7:10 AM Rating: Good
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Varrus runs a vegetable distribution center? ******* communist *******. A REAL capitalist would leave the excess vegetables to rot, thereby lowering supply and driving up prices.
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A real capitalist would boil them, coat them in melted butter and then whip them at cars.

And then open a body shop.
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#274 Sep 15 2009 at 7:15 AM Rating: Excellent
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A real capitalist would boil them, coat them in melted butter and then whip them at cars.

And then open a body shop.
And a car wash right next door, to handle glancing blows.
#275 Sep 15 2009 at 7:30 AM Rating: Good
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What's sad is you even think that way. I'm the definition of someone rising above discrimination and favoritism
Yep, you've had it pretty tough Smiley: oyvey
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#276 Sep 15 2009 at 7:32 AM Rating: Excellent
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Varrus was poor at some point in his life? Man, he must have made some poor choices to get himself into that position.
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