Liberals have no shame.Follow

So, I was right. One family's begging of the media is worth substantially less than another family's based on your assessment of that family's value.

That was all I needed to know. Thanks.

Oh, and I personally think that there is much more compelling reasons to post a wartime photo than one of someone not wearing panties but, sadly, we seem to live in a world where the opposite is the case.

Edited, Sep 5th 2009 2:34pm by Jophiel

You shouldn't really ********** to blurry and gross accidental nudity either. Maybe if your fetish is specifically exhibitionism or voyeurism, it would make sense (you take what you can get,) but for someone just after an image of the ******, there would be much better options.

Wait, Mass Effect has blue alien sideboob?


That's really all I've taken away from this thread.

I wish the networks and newspapers let the last administration make them a brunch of Pussies, who sterilize news reports from the front lines.

Soldiers get wounded and die and to try to say that we shouldn't have to face reality because it offends members of their family who support their son going to war but not wanting to face how he died is a shame.

How strange it seems to me having watch nightly coverage of the war in Southeast Asia. I'm thankful my parents didn't censor what news we watched as children. Instead they made sure we talked about what we saw and learn not to glorify war. Photography has been showing the results of battles since the Civil War. Though Bradly did stage many of his photos of Gettysburg.

Then the last administration try to keep us from the truth of their fail wars and a chance to show our respect to the men and women who died in Iraq. All the while making the most of photos of Bush at Ground Zero and in a flight jacket before a Mission Accomplish sign.

okay, I'm tire of reading right wing loons create lies, that anyone with a brain can see through. I'm going to go knit some and maybe read a decent book about war. Darn Turtledove for starting another alt history series of WWII. At least he allows his characters to admit that they needed to change their underware the first time they faced combat and death.

On a couple of assari, if memory serves. I'm thinking of Benezia and the dancers at chora's den.

There also might be some sideboob in the liara romance arc.

I agree it was disrespectful to do this. I think what most people on this forum take umbrage with is how ThiefX acts soooo shocked that it happens, when, as has been said, similar stories are exploited all the time by both sides. Saying "Liberals have no shame" is ridiculous. It is perfectly accurate to say "And neither do conservatives." Hell, even libertarians or the rainbow green party might not have shame if it would advance their cause.

Nothing wrong with showing pictures of war and reminding the public of the cost it inflicts; however, it would be nice to go with the family's wishes in cases like these. Same deal with the Ted Kennedy thing; sure, there might not be any LEGAL reason to hold off on criticism or debate what afterlife debates the guy, but most people would consider common decency and bite their tongues.

Alas, some conservatives have no shame.
Liberals too.

Politics is much more than just the U.S. government or democrats vs republicans. Your immediate jump to infer that this is some how a Bush vs. Obama or Dem vs. Pubbie argument is off the mark. In this particular case, I'd say the politics were of a corporate nature at the AP, and quite possibly several anti-war agendas at the local publisher level.

What... because I'm unable to simplify it to ____ vs Obama or ____ vs Liberals, you simply dismiss it as "talking out of my ***"? That's real intelligent.

Tell more people that "war is [i]bad[/i"]?

I can see it as political in the same sense that some broad war theory or activism is political, or that all media is inherently political. It's not exactly an original message or anything, but I don't know what else to call it when you make a story or statement about an issue of the times: art?

The sideboob is from the sex scene with Liara. Getting with Ashley shows you some awkwardly rendered shoulderblades and that's it. I'm not sure about Kaiden because, well. I don't play females in RPGs. I find it difficult.

Considering that it's Nix we're talking to, I should point out that Mass Effect caught a little bit of flak since its romance subplots featured two guy-girl relationships, a girl-guy relationship, a girl-girl relationship and absolutely no guy-guy action whatsoever. I wasn't surprised, because the game is basically a twenty-four-hour long interactive action film, but some people got mad because they thought it was unfair that a sex scene with a tentacle-headed bisexual hermaphrodite was put ahead of any noteworthy homosexual interaction, especially between men.

Glad I'm not the only one.




Actually, I think this is a very different case from the Mass Effect one. Many people upset by this are upset because this was shown against the wishes of the family(I happen to agree with Locke's statement about the whole matter). The contents of the image itself is mostly irrelevant, it's that the family doesn't want it shown.

The issue with Mass Effect was that some woman heard that the game had some sex in it and then blew that WAY out of proportion(with a good helping hand from Fox News). They so failed to do their research that Jack Thompson released a statement to the effect of it being "not that bad".

You know you messed up when Jack Thompson says you overreacted...

My original statement was general in nature. You're the one who tried to assign some specifics to it. Go figure. The AP did, however, put some internal or personal agenda ahead of compassion and respect for the dead - a pretty clear example of politics overriding common decency, which is exactly what I said. The continuation of that in this forum by way of blaming "liberals" for it and the subsequent "liberal defense" of the reporting simply furthers my claim. To me, a case like this has absolutely nothing to do with either side of the political spectrum. It should have been about respect for the dead and the family, nothing more or less. Next thing you know, a fallen solder's wife will hear her dead husband's name on the nightly news before she hears it from the DOD.

I don't claim to know what drove the AP to release the photo in spite of the pleas of the family (short of what they've actually said), nor do I know the reason behind the decision to publish by local media outlets. Therefore, I cannot tell you what you asked for. I can tell you that common decency took a back seat to something, here, and "politics" is most certainly a valid description of that something, in the absence of specifics.

Edited, Sep 6th 2009 1:02pm by BrownDuck