Is it time we made sex crimes a capital offense once again?Follow

I'm kinda curious what the repeat offense rate(as well as the initial offense rate) for crimes that receive canings in Singapore are compared to the rates of the same crimes in nations where jail is the offense and also compared to nations where fines are the primary punishment.

I'm just wondering because whenever talks of punishment come up, someone often brings up canings as a less costly alternative. I'm not sure I disagree with the idea of bringing back corporal punishment for minor offenses, but I'd definitely like to see some hard numbers before I made a decision on how I felt about the matter. Further, since savings to government is often the reason this is mentioned, I can't help but wonder if fines would be effective enough in these minor cases to be also considered a viable alternative, especially when one considers that not only are they less costly, but they'd potentially be a source of revenue(I only think about that because I'm personally all for a decriminalization of minor possession of softer drugs, as defined by law, replacing the prison time with a speeding ticket type fine).

Wait, you mean we're not supposed to eventually transition to "the death penalty means your organs are going to be forcibly donated"?

Personally, if it can be proven without doubt

We don't need a judicial system for this, fuckstick.

Disagree completely with the OP, because the moment what you propose becomes law is the moment the church wins a moral victory in the US and I can think of roughly 100 people on this forum alone who would hate to see that. Speak up I know you're there.

Edited, Sep 9th 2009 4:38am by Soulrunner

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I know, right? Hard to say where to start: grammar, usage and content are all trash.

Order of magnitude, there are about 10,000 homicides per year in the US, and about 100 executions. Let's say the imprisoned are locked away for a long time (instead of death) and say one in ten murders upon release - which I think is quite high. That is 10 future murders/year - which would add about one tenth of one percent to the rate.

(California, by the way, executes on the order of 100 people per year just by neglectful health care within the prison system.)

I don't see why the death penalty for rape would reduce the rate of rape by the orders of magnitude more that Totem is suggesting.

Of course the alternative excuse to execute people is as a deterrent. As I recall, the overwhelming conclusion of the research is that the death penalty doesn't deter the crime. I don't do that kind of research and can't comment on its reliability.

This is despite the broad reach of executions in the US: in terms of age, for example, the US allows executions of among the youngest people on Earth.

And so in many ways the US, California in particular, has some of the harshest conditions for prisoners allowable under our constitution - and yet Totem calls for worse conditions. Despite the obvious, guttural appeal it has to many who have posted here, it has no realistic possibility of passing and would have very limited effectiveness.

The real answer to violent crime is what is well known to be a good deterrent: greater probability of capture. Obviously people want something for nothing, but in reality we normally have to pay for greater services. Many people do this by hiring private security services of a variety of forms.

Your carriage appears to be pulling your horse.