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#127 Sep 05 2009 at 12:59 PM Rating: Decent

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So now making comparisons is the same thing as changing the topic?

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Your refusal to acknowledge reality has gone past rivaling gbaji and has entered this surreal state of outlandish stupidity. ****, I think even varus would have changed the topic by now to avoid making (more of) a fool of himself.

I can't honestly fathom the gall you have to possess in order to lecture anyone about proper grammar and conveying meaning, when you don't seem to understand your own written words. It's also a bit hard for me to fathom why you should take a compliment and interpret it as some strike against you or argument about which to practice some painfully amateur psychology, but if it makes you happy, I can't complain.

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#128 Sep 05 2009 at 1:17 PM Rating: Good

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Kavekk the Ludicrous wrote:

Yes, CBD, I am calling you stupid.

I'm deeply offended.

Pensive the Ludicrous wrote:

You'd have to say something wroth replying to first. You made a claim: that I was using a word incorrectly. Demonstrate where this meaning is false.

"Please provide context and elaboration. Well. In a manner I like. And I won't tell you when I like it or not, but I reserve the right to ***** about it later."

I'll pass on continuing this discussion with you if that's the way this is going to work.

Pensive the Ludicrous wrote:

You haven't yet done so. Doing so would require several people, from both prescriptive and descriptive schools of grammatical understanding, to intuitively support your position, else you can't claim that it's anything but a projection of your particular linguistic development.

If you tell your mother "I am either going to cut back on my hours at work or drop out of school." she will probably assume you mean one or the other, not both. You could do both, but if you were to, she'd probably be a little bit surprised (beyond the fact that it would generally be a terrible life choice).

"I believe my headache is from either from low blood sugar, or that loud concert last night." - sure it could be both, but (because of that damn either) I'm going to assume that you're meaning you think there's one culprit.

http://hubpages.com/hub/Grammar_Mishaps__Neither-Nor_and_Either-Or wrote:

"Either" is also a singular adjective. It means one or the other, but not both. "Either" expresses one noun/pronoun doing one thing and the other noun/pronoun doing another; in this way it is a "positive" word because what is occurring is true. "Either" can be paired with "or", but not "nor".

http://www.perfectyourenglish.com/usage/either.htm wrote:

Either means one or the other of two. It is used before a singular noun.
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Either â€¦ or is used to talk about a choice between two alternatives.

Maybe this is just a lot of contextual issues stemming from you using either with a list of more than two items, but it certainly isn't something I'm making up for ***** and giggles.

Pensive the Ludicrous wrote:

It's also a bit hard for me to fathom why you should take a compliment and interpret it as some strike against you or argument about which to practice some painfully amateur psychology, but if it makes you happy, I can't complain.

I was under the impression that the "thank you for validating my feelings" was implying that I was attempting to change the conversation in order to dodge the fact that I can't support my own claims. I can see now how you meant it in the sense of "thank you for showing me that I'm not the only one who gets really damn annoyed by his nonsense." but I think you can also see why I wouldn't have initially taken it that way.

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#129 Sep 05 2009 at 1:39 PM Rating: Decent

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I'll pass on continuing this discussion with you if that's the way this is going to work.

I've been telling you to do this for like a million posts now, but for some reason you just won't take the opportunity to know that you can behave more maturely than I can by walking away. If you want to wonder about what guilt means, and how I'm wrong, then go ahead, but you should take the time to explain what you see as incorrect rather than assert it to be so; if you don't, I can't respond.

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Maybe this is just a lot of contextual issues stemming from you using either with a list of more than two items, but it certainly isn't something I'm making up for sh*ts and giggles.

Well I guess it took you awhile, but you provided a source. Well done.

Though, "neither" is a weird word, because it's not a simple disjunction. It also contains a negation, which changes the grammar of the sentence beyond just an or or and either. I can't really think of any relevant difference between them if you decided to omit the "neither" from a following pair, provided they are linked with "nor" already, because anytime you're negating the thing itself, it's a full reversal of an "and" rather than an "or."

You know what, nevermind. Though the idea of an "either" without an "or" does certainly seem to be always singular, the addition of the second seems like it would open the possibility of plurality, but I can see now why it would not sound that way, after thinking about how "either" can work alone.

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I can see now how you meant it in the sense of "thank you for showing me that I'm not the only one who gets really damn annoyed by his nonsense." but I think you can also see why I wouldn't have initially taken it that way.

I see lots of things when people take the time to answer questions and explain themselves, however, I didn't mean it that way either. I meant it in the way that I am glad that someone else recognizes in me a disparity between gbaji and varrus being slippery and not committing to the things that they want to talk about, that if someone wants to compare me to them, I would not mind really, unless it was about being noncommittal.

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