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#1 Aug 20 2009 at 7:53 AM Rating: Good
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Some of you may know, I'm retiring from the Air Force next month and in October I'm going to start a new job at a small law firm in Texas (I'll be the 3rd lawyer). The firm represents plaintiffs in personal injury cases and concentrates on catastrophic injury cases -- death, dismemberment, disfigurement.

The Boss says he wasn't planning on expanding just yet, but changed his mind when he looked at my resume. Consequently, expanding is a bit of a financial stretch for him. His offer to hire me was "conditional." He's going to decide after a couple of months whether he's going to let me go or let 1 of the support staff go (can't afford to pay us both).

Part of me thinks it's crappy to accept an offer putting someone else out of a job. The other part thinks I have to do what I have to do to feed my family. I don't have any other good offers right now. And I can't help thinking (rationalizing?) he wouldn't be considering this if he doesn't already have some other reason to get rid of the other guy.

And, even if he ends up not keeping me, it's worth taking the short term offer just to gain valuable experience with Texas personal injury law.

What do you think?
#2 Aug 20 2009 at 7:58 AM Rating: Good
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I think that if the other guy worked harder his job wouldnt be on the line to begin with.

so **** him.
#3 Aug 20 2009 at 7:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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So I might be mean and selfish


But we don't know because we've never heard of you. :)
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#4 Aug 20 2009 at 8:01 AM Rating: Good
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What do you think?


Accept it. One person won't have a job whether you accept it or not, so it doesn't make much difference either way.

I'm not too keen on you working for ambulance-chasers, but since I'm not your dad I don't suppose it matters much.
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#5 Aug 20 2009 at 8:02 AM Rating: Good
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But we don't know because we've never heard of you. :)


I suppose I could call you a 40-something *****, then you could sue me for defamation and get a court order to have my identity exposed...
#6 Aug 20 2009 at 8:20 AM Rating: Decent
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#7 Aug 20 2009 at 8:25 AM Rating: Good
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Ahkuraj wrote:
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But we don't know because we've never heard of you. :)


I suppose I could call you a 40-something *****, then you could sue me for defamation and get a court order to have my identity exposed...


But no one listens to you, so clearly no harm will have been done.

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#8 Aug 20 2009 at 9:29 AM Rating: Good
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I think that if the other guy worked harder his job wouldnt be on the line to begin with.

so @#%^ him.

This.

Employment is cutthroat these days. Financial security should go to the most competent.
#9 Aug 20 2009 at 9:44 AM Rating: Good
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Cut his head off with a chain saw. The corresponding lawsuit will have him set for life.
#10 Aug 20 2009 at 9:49 AM Rating: Good
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Ahkuraj wrote:
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But we don't know because we've never heard of you. :)


I suppose I could call you a 40-something *****, then you could sue me for defamation and get a court order to have my identity exposed...


But no one listens to you, so clearly no harm will have been done.



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#11 Aug 20 2009 at 9:51 AM Rating: Decent
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Ahkuraj wrote:

What do you think?
I think it was pretty crappy to lay the guilt on you before even officially going to work for the firm.

I think it's pretty unprofessional that the boss would discuss other employees potential employment conditions with you. You could have been informed that the job may be temporary without it being divulged that it was you or another specific employee.

Besides what sounds like questionable practices with the boss, I guess it's up to you if this is how you want to put your law degree to work for you. Injury peeps need good representation too.

I can tell you though, for me, hearing the term 'personal injury lawyer' conjures up a picture of the accident chasing, inhumane money-grubbing dramatist.

Money is money - it can come from lots of place. Don't compromise yourself for it.
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#12 Aug 20 2009 at 10:04 AM Rating: Good
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Yeah, if your resume was impressive enough that he changed his stance on expanding his enterprises just to get you in, I expect your resume is impressive enough to get you a job at a law firm where you don't have to chase ambulances, can rise higher, faster, and won't put someone else out of work.
#13 Aug 20 2009 at 10:16 AM Rating: Good
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Injury peeps need good representation too.


This. It's one of many things I want to do. I find the concept of helping people hurt by the negligence of big companies and discounted by insurance companies personally rewarding.

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I think it was pretty crappy to lay the guilt on you before even officially going to work for the firm.


Yep. I've had that thought.

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Yeah, if your resume was impressive enough that he changed his stance on expanding his enterprises just to get you in, I expect your resume is impressive enough to get you a job at a law firm where you don't have to chase ambulances, can rise higher, faster, and won't put someone else out of work.


I would have thought the same. Doesn't seem to be the case. The only other nibble I had on 200 resumes turned into an offer for only part time work. I don't think it's my resume per se that interested this guy. I have a spanish last name and I'm retired Air Force. In his market, that will make a difference to bringing in business. Once I prove I can add to the firm's bottom line, I'll negotiate for a percentage or go out on my own.


#14 Aug 21 2009 at 3:05 AM Rating: Good
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I would have thought the same. Doesn't seem to be the case. The only other nibble I had on 200 resumes turned into an offer for only part time work. I don't think it's my resume per se that interested this guy. I have a spanish last name and I'm retired Air Force. In his market, that will make a difference to bringing in business. Once I prove I can add to the firm's bottom line, I'll negotiate for a percentage or go out on my own.


Then go for it. As said previously, if the person whose job is in jeopardy was better at doing their job it likely wouldn't be in jeopardy. Further, if bringing you in manages to increase business enough, he might end up being able to keep the other guy anyways.
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