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Well no, some part or prison or fines is supposed to be about punishment for your crimes.
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Elinda wrote:
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Personally, while I can see it from both sides, I think it's always best to err on the side of compassion.
Perhaps this is one of the resons I'm not in politics.
Perhaps this is one of the resons I'm not in politics.
All doubts of guilt aside, is showing compassion for a man convicted of killing hundreds of others being dispassionate to the loved ones of the victims?
I don't see how.
In my opinoin, the point of a penal system shouldn't be to punish. It should be to rehabilitate and, when that can't work, to keep dangerous people away from society where they can do more harm. This man cannot do any more harm. Keeping him locked up isn't about revenge for the victims. Or at least, it shouldn't be.
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
Elinda wrote:
Then would it be the prudent and compassionate thing to do to release all criminals, regardless of crime, if they are old, infirm and/or terminal (or otherwise found to be physically unable to present a threat to society)?
I don't see why not.
Of course, this is only my opinion.
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Elinda wrote:
Then would it be the prudent and compassionate thing to do to release all criminals, regardless of crime, if they are old, infirm and/or terminal (or otherwise found to be physically unable to present a threat to society)?
I don't see why not.
Of course, this is only my opinion.
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
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Finally, I'm not surprised at the trans-Atlantic division of opinion. On this side we rejected the death penalty as being inhumane and medieval, while in the USA it has wide support.
Ahem, motherfUCker.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
Elinda wrote:
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Elinda wrote:
Then would it be the prudent and compassionate thing to do to release all criminals, regardless of crime, if they are old, infirm and/or terminal (or otherwise found to be physically unable to present a threat to society)?
I don't see why not.
Of course, this is only my opinion.
True.
It might also be more compassionate to leave some people in prison once they get toward the end of their lives.
It's not an easy system, so it's probably why it's not what's in place.
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
It might also be more compassionate to leave some people in prison once they get toward the end of their lives.
Considering many former inmates have a hard time finding employment and consequently, medical care, I couldn't agree more.
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In my opinoin, the point of a penal system shouldn't be to punish. It should be to rehabilitate and, when that can't work, to keep dangerous people away from society where they can do more harm.
I don't disagree, but I wanted an excuse to post this again:
Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
I think they should release him... about 2500 feet up out the door of a 737...
I agree fully.
"If you ask me, we could do with a little less motivation. The people who are causing all the trouble seem highly motivated to me. Serial killers, stock swindlers, drug dealers, Christian Republicans"
George Carlin.
George Carlin.
I'm with Varrus on this one. Think of the logic behind a radical Muzzie's actions. He obviously believes in his cause to the point he blows a plane up with innocent people onboard. Now he is (supposedly) months from his own death, so for a devout and ******* crazy Muzzie, what is his best option? Why, kill/martyr himself for those 70 virgin goats they spend so much time ************ over.
It isn't a tremendously large leap of conjecture to have him strap himself into his prefered mode of transportation/death and kill another 200+ infidels and guarantee himself those lovely and nubile goats. Letting him go was a monumentally bad idea, especially now that oil might have been tied to the decision.
Totem
It isn't a tremendously large leap of conjecture to have him strap himself into his prefered mode of transportation/death and kill another 200+ infidels and guarantee himself those lovely and nubile goats. Letting him go was a monumentally bad idea, especially now that oil might have been tied to the decision.
Totem
Totem wrote:
I'm with Varrus on this one.
Now really. This should be the first clue that you're about to say something monumentally stupid.
If he really was a hardcore crazy jihadist, would he still be proclaiming his innocence? Woudn't he be all like "Yep, that was me, I killed 200 Westerners for the glory of Allah, and you mohterfuckers are next, insch'allah"?
Clearly he would. You don't get props in the extremist world by being a pusssy about what you've done. Every terrorist attack these guys have made has been claimed in some way. It's even more likely that he would claim responsability now that he's home, safe, and gonna die in 3 months.
Think about it.
Edited, Aug 24th 2009 3:33pm by RedPhoenixxx
You know, proclamations of innocence don't sway my opinion. Why? Because 99.9999% of inmates behind bars claim they were either somehow framed or a grievious miscarriage of justice was performed during their trial. Abu Boknaaier the Libyan is no exception. If for no other reason that as a devout Muzzie he'd believe himself free of guilt because infidels deserve to die. Hence he is "innocent." That's Muzzie logic for ya.
Totem
Totem
Totem wrote:
That's Muzzie logic for ya.
No, that's just you making numbers up and being silly.
Ok, you caught me. It really is 99.999% of inmates who claim they are innocent. Mea culpa.
Totem
Totem
01001001 00100000 01001100 01001001 01001011 01000101 00100000 01000011 01000001 01001011 01000101
You'll always be stupid, you'll just be stupid with more information in your brain
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Muzzie mathematics: Bombing people in the name of Islam (even those of your own religion for heresy or political expediency) + suicide + denial of earthly pleasure = heavenly reward x 70
/laughs
And this from a group of people who invented algebra.
Totem
/laughs
And this from a group of people who invented algebra.
Totem
Totem mathematics: Sweeping generalisations (about pretty much everything but especially about Muslims) + stereotype + twisted logic = an post.
/laugh
And this from someone who invented last.
/laugh
And this from someone who invented last.
In the good old days Darth Cheney would have had ol' Jhigg Abu the Libyan bomber strapped to a waterboard quicker than you could felch a load from NaughtyWord's rotten ******. And I promise you a confession would have been forthcoming posthaste.
Yeah, that's flippin' sig worthy.
/nods
Totem
Yeah, that's flippin' sig worthy.
/nods
Totem
Ok, if al-Megrahi gets to go free what about Bernie Madoff?
http://slatest.slate.com/id/2226018/entry/3
Seems only fair by Scottish law. Oh, wait, money is involved with Madoff. Stealing wealth incurs a different standard of justice when it comes to Scots, who apparently don't hold life as dear as the bottom line. Nevermind. Proceed with your regularly scheduled lynching.
Totem
http://slatest.slate.com/id/2226018/entry/3
Seems only fair by Scottish law. Oh, wait, money is involved with Madoff. Stealing wealth incurs a different standard of justice when it comes to Scots, who apparently don't hold life as dear as the bottom line. Nevermind. Proceed with your regularly scheduled lynching.
Totem
RedPhoenixxx wrote:
Totem wrote:
I'm with Varrus on this one.
Now really. This should be the first clue that you're about to say something monumentally stupid.
If he really was a hardcore crazy jihadist, would he still be proclaiming his innocence? Woudn't he be all like "Yep, that was me, I killed 200 Westerners for the glory of Allah, and you mohterfuckers are next, insch'allah"?
Clearly he would. You don't get props in the extremist world by being a pusssy about what you've done. Every terrorist attack these guys have made has been claimed in some way. It's even more likely that he would claim responsability now that he's home, safe, and gonna die in 3 months.
Think about it.
I was reading a book recently (fiction), The Afghan. It suggested that the most extreme jihadists were the ones who really were and could still live a regular life in the US or the UK. The suicide bombers who continued living regular lives before they went on to kill themselves and try to take as many as possible. Food for thought.
Edit to cut first line.
Edited, Aug 25th 2009 9:39pm by manicshock
Apparently Americans have stopped buying Scottish produce.
Which is a travesty I'm sure.
Which is a travesty I'm sure.
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