How to pay for the health care reform...Follow

Ok, not really, but it certainly is one method of generating revenue that was previously unavailable.

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That number will certainly boost the "people with income over $250,000" target group. I for one feel no pity for these people and I hope the IRS throws the book at them.

And let me guess, you think Obama's plan won't raise taxes on the middle class and we will all get the same level of care. Now thats adorable.

Was that a weak attempt at a dodge? Because that sure looked like a lame attempt at a dodge. Let me check...


Yup. Lame attempt at a dodge.

The CBO, under Republican leadership in 2004, issued findings that malpractice suits constituted less than 2% of medical costs and that even adding in "defensive testing" and the like had an insignificant impact on the cost of health care. "Tort reform" is a tool the GOP use to fool the weak minded into supporting their agenda by offering it as a false solution to an issue. "We could lower health care (by 2%) if only we had TORT REFORM!!". Sounds a lot like "We could lower fuel costs (by a couple pennies after ten years) if only we could DRILL IN ANWR!!". Forget public health options/renewable energies -- those are silly Democratic solutions. The real answer is this GOP solution that will advance their agenda while doing nothing to fix the actual problem!

Works excellently to trick the simple minded though. Threads in this forum display that briliantly. But you continue to get all defensive and say things like "I bet he'll raise taxes!!" while defending the placebos the GOP feeds you. Makes you look real smart.

Personal Income is distributed from the profits from a business AFTER the business has reinvested business income back into the business.

So if a plumber makes $250k total, and invests $200k back into his plumbing business, he's counted as having an income of $50,000, and is taxed with personal income taxes on that $50k.

Anyone who is a small business owner who has a personal income of $250,000, and is being taxed on that, almost certainly has a business yearly income turnover of 2 to 4 million dollars.

For the record, I'm a believer in universal safety nets, and public infrastucture. That doesn't stop me also being enthusiastic about widespread participation in private investments and businesses, and enthusiastic about riches and wealth. The only "evil" rich are the ones who dodge their tax obligations, their health and safety obligations, their environmental obligations with reguards to toxins and pollution, or who criminally dodge the law.

I'm a deep green who thinks that there's nothing stopping people from enjoying a luxurious life while at the same time minimizing the "ecological footprint" that they use. In fact it's commonsense that the two objectives often support each other.

Edited, Aug 15th 2009 2:37pm by Aripyanfar

Legalize and tax pot!

Oh, wait, that will kill the market for pain medications and ruin the pharma industry.

Oh well.

I'm wondering where you people are going to instantly find hundreds of thousands of new doctors to treat the mass influx of new patients if this abomination passes. The quality of care would take a major hit.

I wonder - would someone who currently can't get insurance rather have no doctor or a busy doctor?

Partly that. But I think the bit that worries him most is that Americans will suddenly be paying for mexicans to have abortions.

Yeah but don't the rich already do that when they knock up the maid?

CBD,



Hey biff what do you think the doctors are going to say when you double their work load with people who aren't able to pay for the service and increase their liability exposure.





Edited, Aug 18th 2009 4:48pm by publiusvarus

Uh, since they will have insurance, isn't the payment thing a non-factor?

Their work load will by far not be doubled. I understand it's really hard for you to do, but try to think intelligently and debate the issues at hand without resorting to conjecture. I know you have it in you.