Jophiel wrote:
publiusvarus wrote:
The difference being...
The difference being that Obama isn't illegally wiretapping domestic phonelines to listen in on phone calls made by US citizens.
It's a good thing that only Conservatives repeat hysterical rumors as fact...
While there is a minor concern that names and email addresses will likely be passed along with the content, and that this information could be used to create "lists" of people engaged in "unamerican" speech and whatnot, the bigger and more direct concern to me is the whole idea that there's "goodfact" and "badfact" and that the Obama administration and his liberal friends feel it's their duty to tell the American public which is which.
There is absolutely an Orwellian aspect to this. It's one thing to respond to people's opinions when they are presented to you. It's another thing entirely to actively seek out the sources of "misinformation" upon which those opinions are formed and attempt to debunk, dismiss, or attack them. Regardless of what you believe, a Democracy can only stand as long as the individuals within it are free to discuss their views and opinions. Yes. Even the nutty ones. If ideas are that "out there", the government should not need to spend effort attempting to debunk them. If those ideas are common enough, they need to address them.
And that seems to be the real objective here. It's something I noticed during the campaign. When a question or concern was raised which the Obama campaign did not want to directly respond to, it would often just be dismissed as something that had already been debunked, usually with a reference to a site like factcheck.org (or one of their own web sites). The point being that this was used as a tactic to avoid discussion of certain ideas and issues. By having some web page somewhere which dismissed the opposition opinion, they could simply refer to said page and ignore it without ever engaging in any sort of real discussion or debate. My concern is that this is how this sort of thing will be used. A Democrat politician need not educate himself on the issues and know his position and how to defend it. It's being done for him by proxy. And anyone who continues to repeat something that has been debunked in this manner can just be dismissed as a crazy.
Dunno. I just think it's a form of thought warfare. We're not discussion ideas. We're just attacking those we don't like and convincing people not to agree with them, not on their own merits, by via association. Given that this is being done in a partisan manner, we're going to see only one sides "facts" disputed and dismissed. I think it is a really bad idea and will ultimately reduce healthy debate and discussion in favor of associative dismissal. We're already seeing a little bit of this, but if the government gets into the game as well, it'll be much much worse.