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#152 Aug 12 2009 at 5:02 PM Rating: Decent
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That's exactly what I said. You emphasized the wrong word, though.


There is no difference between you personally not supporting a lady for president, and you not supporting a lady for president. The use of the word "personally" is nothing more than an attempt to deflect social responsibility by playing the "Oh it's just my opinion, gosh we can all have our own opinions can't we?" Yes, of course you can have an opinion, and no one can change that. There are facts, however, which pertain to you, about your opinions.

The opinion that you have is sexist, and you are, in part, sexist.

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Maybe you were talking about "fully" instead.

Ditto for that one. This is pretty much excluded middle cut and dry

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#153 Aug 12 2009 at 5:11 PM Rating: Good
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This is a joke, right? It's like you took the first four google results at face value without even reading them. The last two demonstrate that men are vulnerable to hormone-driven mood swings, while the first two are unhelpful at best and irrelevant at worst.


All of the articles linked elaborate on the fundamental science behind women and mood swings - hormone imbalances. Whether caused by PMS, menopause, or some other condition, the fact of the matter is that women are (scientifically speaking) more prone to such imbalances and the mood swings that come with. I never said men can't be emotional or don't have hormone imbalances, but when you have a monthly cycle that is known to throw your hormones out of wack, the chances of you being an emotional roller coaster are much higher. If you can't understand that, then there's really no point continuing a discussion with you.

No, all of the articles are about the science behind PEOPLE and mood swings. They simply happen to be oriented towards women because, as I bolded from one of your links, our culture has made it seem as though hormones are very much a feminine thing. Nothing you linked made any claims towards women being more emotional than men - simply that they're emotional. That's great. So are men. When you make a comparison like that, however, you're attempting to quantify this, and you have to actually scientifically prove that. If you can't understand that, then there's really no point continuing a discussion with you.
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#154 Aug 12 2009 at 5:36 PM Rating: Default
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Majivo wrote:
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This is a joke, right? It's like you took the first four google results at face value without even reading them. The last two demonstrate that men are vulnerable to hormone-driven mood swings, while the first two are unhelpful at best and irrelevant at worst.


All of the articles linked elaborate on the fundamental science behind women and mood swings - hormone imbalances. Whether caused by PMS, menopause, or some other condition, the fact of the matter is that women are (scientifically speaking) more prone to such imbalances and the mood swings that come with. I never said men can't be emotional or don't have hormone imbalances, but when you have a monthly cycle that is known to throw your hormones out of wack, the chances of you being an emotional roller coaster are much higher. If you can't understand that, then there's really no point continuing a discussion with you.

No, all of the articles are about the science behind PEOPLE and mood swings. They simply happen to be oriented towards women because, as I bolded from one of your links, our culture has made it seem as though hormones are very much a feminine thing. Nothing you linked made any claims towards women being more emotional than men - simply that they're emotional. That's great. So are men. When you make a comparison like that, however, you're attempting to quantify this, and you have to actually scientifically prove that. If you can't understand that, then there's really no point continuing a discussion with you.


When human males start having menstrual cycles, you let me know. Til then, your point is moot.
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That's exactly what I said. You emphasized the wrong word, though.


There is no difference between you personally not supporting a lady for president, and you not supporting a lady for president. The use of the word "personally" is nothing more than an attempt to deflect social responsibility by playing the "Oh it's just my opinion, gosh we can all have our own opinions can't we?" Yes, of course you can have an opinion, and no one can change that. There are facts, however, which pertain to you, about your opinions.


I'm so happy for you that you feel empowered to read what I wrote and so matter of factly suppose that I meant something else. However, unless you can prove to me that you're a mind reader, I'm going to have to call your bluff and tell you that what was written was exactly what was intended, and any ulterior meaning you extrapolate from it is likely incorrect.
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#156 Aug 12 2009 at 5:41 PM Rating: Good
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#157 Aug 12 2009 at 5:44 PM Rating: Good
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Stubs reminds me of that guy in Falling Down, only fatter.
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#158 Aug 12 2009 at 5:53 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm so happy for you that you feel empowered to read what I wrote and so matter of factly suppose that I meant something else. However, unless you can prove to me that you're a mind reader, I'm going to have to call your bluff and tell you that what was written was exactly what was intended, and any ulterior meaning you extrapolate from it is likely incorrect.


You don't seem to understand Stubs. The logical content of those statements is identical. It's not a matter of me choosing among meanings; it's that the meanings are the same. "Personally" is redundant in any assertion you being with "I." Putting "Personally" in the statement does not in any way alter what you are committed to.

You're a man right? You should be able to understand the logical commitments of your statements easy peasy.
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I wasn't the first, as you recall or the second. It wasn't especially lengthy either. But really what did you expect? It seems as if you responded with a ******* and sexist response that you are trying to backpedal from.


As a self-professed veteran of these forums and of the Internet in general I personally find it amazing that you apparently can't tell when someone is ******* trolling you. Really, really obvious trolling, too.

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I will never have a fraction of the success that Hillary Rodham Clinton has achieved by any standard you care to measure and it gnaws at my self-esteem when I go to sleep every night.


We know, Totem. We know. What you need to realise is that it's okay for there to be one - or more! - women in the world who have done much more with their lives than you can ever hope to. It's not emasculating at all to admit that there are women who achieve more good in a day than you have done in your long, slightly overweight life.
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#160 Aug 12 2009 at 5:59 PM Rating: Good
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Yes, I capitalised it on purpose.

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#161 Aug 12 2009 at 6:00 PM Rating: Excellent
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As a self-professed veteran of these forums and of the Internet in general I personally find it amazing that you apparently can't tell when someone is @#%^ing trolling you. Really, really obvious trolling, too.


I'd wish BD was trolling for his own sake. But hon, you are a little naive about these things. BD's capacity for stupid comments is unparalleled.
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#162 Aug 12 2009 at 6:23 PM Rating: Decent
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Yes, I capitalised it on purpose.

Edited, Aug 13th 2009 2:00am by Kavekk


Anna as a self-proclaimed Internet veteran, you irrepressible twit.
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#163 Aug 12 2009 at 6:25 PM Rating: Excellent
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zepoodle has a ***** for BD. They sit around and talk about how women's menstrual blood attracts bears.

Also, Totem is twice the man that you are.

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Yes, I capitalised it on purpose.

Edited, Aug 13th 2009 2:00am by Kavekk


Anna as a self-proclaimed Internet veteran, you irrepressible twit.


It's true, I cannot be repressed. I AM IRREPRESSIBLE! No matter what the man tries, I cannot be kept down.

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#165 Aug 12 2009 at 6:30 PM Rating: Good
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When human males start having menstrual cycles, you let me know. Til then, your point is moot.


Men have 24 hour hormonal cycles. One could say we're worse.

EDIT: Actually, that's just testosterone. There's some research out that though that men do have longer period hormonal cycles.



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#166 Aug 12 2009 at 6:33 PM Rating: Decent
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Annabella, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
Also, Totem is twice the man that you are.


And he's four times the woman Hillary is.
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#167 Aug 12 2009 at 6:46 PM Rating: Good
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Totem: quarter man, half woman, all fascist.

Totem doesn't push himself up, he pushes the proletariat down.

Totem used to bullseye working class womprats in his T-16.

Totem was born without a conscience, so he stole the Republican party's.

Totem hates Liberty SO MUCH he became a pilot.
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#168 Aug 12 2009 at 6:47 PM Rating: Good
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We should collage our feelings about Totem.
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#169 Aug 12 2009 at 7:04 PM Rating: Good
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When human males start having menstrual cycles, you let me know. Til then, your point is moot.

As CBD has already pointed out to your factually-starved mind, there is a great deal of research coming out showing that men are subject to similar hormonal cycles with testosterone/estrogen as women are. So really we have our time of the month too, it's just less noticeable because we aren't bleeding - unless we get all pissy and go stab a guy.
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#170 Aug 12 2009 at 7:08 PM Rating: Good
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[we aren't bleeding - unless we get all pissy and go stab a guy.


But then it's not really you bleeding, it's the other guy.
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#171 Aug 12 2009 at 7:09 PM Rating: Decent
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Annabella, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
We should collage our feelings about Totem.


I think totem is a pretty cool guy eh, snakes the blacks and doesn't afraid of anything.
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If women were equal to men or fit to be leaders then they wouldn't have been raped and dominated for the past ten thousand years. Matter settled.

Bear children, prepare food, handle housework, know your role.


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Bye.
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#175 Aug 12 2009 at 7:14 PM Rating: Good
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I bet this troll wishes he was as irrepressible as me.
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#176 Aug 12 2009 at 7:15 PM Rating: Good
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I wish I could bear his child.
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