On BBC this morning a video of the Hellbeast while in Kinsaasha got asked a question, whereupon she quickly went nuts on the reporter saying something to the effect of, "I'm the Secretary of State, not Mr. Clinton! I'm the person you should be asking about, NOT my husband!!!!"
It was at this point aides were seen quickly scurrying about frantically looking for an industrial sized tampon. Hilarious.
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Christian Science Monitor wrote:
On the first of a two-day visit to the Democratic Republic of Congo to push for peace and an end to the shocking amount of sexual violence seen in the country’s war-torn east (click here to read an in-depth Monitor story on that), a university student did the unthinkable.
At an open forum for young people in the country’s capital, Kinshasa, he asked her husband’s opinion about the involvement of China and the World Bank in Congo.
“What does Mr. Clinton think about it?†he said, perhaps unaware of the irony, given not only that Mrs. Clinton is the Secretary of State but that she has long been a forceful advocate for women’s rights and was in the country specifically to highlight abuse of women as a weapon of war.
“You want to know what my husband thinks?†Clinton reportedly replied in a forceful voice. “My husband is not the secretary of state, I am. You ask my opinion, I will tell you my opinion. I’m not going to channel my husband.â€
At an open forum for young people in the country’s capital, Kinshasa, he asked her husband’s opinion about the involvement of China and the World Bank in Congo.
“What does Mr. Clinton think about it?†he said, perhaps unaware of the irony, given not only that Mrs. Clinton is the Secretary of State but that she has long been a forceful advocate for women’s rights and was in the country specifically to highlight abuse of women as a weapon of war.
“You want to know what my husband thinks?†Clinton reportedly replied in a forceful voice. “My husband is not the secretary of state, I am. You ask my opinion, I will tell you my opinion. I’m not going to channel my husband.â€
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Nobody asks Sarah Palin what Todd thought about stuff.
Oh, right. Because he's a jock.
Oh, right. Because he's a jock.
Poor Bill. Must feel rough to change from being a president to a decoration.
I heard the question asked was "what would Obamas opinion be?" , But the interpreter muffed the names in her translation.
Could be bollox o' course.
Could be bollox o' course.
"If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders". Carlin.
Joph reads the monitor?
Well, regardless, I can't say i blame her for being pissed. Might not be a good idea to appear that way, but I can certainly not fault her in any way for being that way.
Well, regardless, I can't say i blame her for being pissed. Might not be a good idea to appear that way, but I can certainly not fault her in any way for being that way.
She is kinda a *****. On that point, we agree.
"The Rich are there to take all of the money & pay none of the taxes, the middle class is there to do all the work and pay all the taxes, and the poor are there to scare the crap out of the middle class." -George Carlin
I haven't been able to find any video of it online yet, but her voice gets shrill, her eyes kind of bug out, and her mouth tightens up from her lips going thin. From what I can see she is extremely sensitive about always being that other "less successful" Clinton, the one who only made salutatorian instead of valedictorian, lol.
Touchy, touchy, Miss Hillary. Perhaps you should brush up on your diplomacy skills?
Totem
Touchy, touchy, Miss Hillary. Perhaps you should brush up on your diplomacy skills?
Totem
Found it.
http://www.mizozo.com/world/08/2009/10/video-hillary-clinton-snaps-on-congolese-student-s....html
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http://www.mizozo.com/world/08/2009/10/video-hillary-clinton-snaps-on-congolese-student-s....html
Totem
The news here said that she threw a tantrum at the reporter.
She really didn't. She told off a guy who asked a pretty much irrelevant question, hardly a tantrum.
Was amusing though.
Especially if it was a mis-translation.
She really didn't. She told off a guy who asked a pretty much irrelevant question, hardly a tantrum.
Was amusing though.
Especially if it was a mis-translation.
Sorry, but for a Secretary of State that was a tantrum. The head diplomat of your country is supposed to be the very essence of patience, decorum, and tact. And to jump in a student's **** because she has bad self worth or didn't sleep well the previous night is simply inexcusable.
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Totem wrote:
Sorry, but for a Secretary of State that was a tantrum. The head diplomat of your country is supposed to be the very essence of patience, decorum, and tact. And to jump in a student's sh*t because she has bad self worth or didn't sleep well the previous night is simply inexcusable.
Totem
Totem
**** Cheney shot a guy in the face.
Turin wrote:
Seriously, what the f*ck nature?
Her mission there was to push for
1. Peace.
2. The end to the shocking amount of sexual violence there.
Prevalent sexual violence happens in places where women are seen as powerless and disposable, subject to men's will at all times they are unprotected by other men, and having no will of their own that needs to be listened to.
It was unfortunate that a mistranslation occurred, and Mrs Clinton wasn't asked about her President's opinion, which, as a member of his cabinet* and as a delegate for him, would have been a relevant question. However that mistranslation happened. Given what she was asked, her response, and even her vehemence was entirely appropriate. In that moment she was a foreign woman in Congo, in a powerful position in her own government, safe from attack and physical reprisal if she spoke out asserting her thoughts and her rights to hold and to do an important job. She had the safety to speak out shockingly and assertively into a conservative misogynist forum, about the importance of HER OPINION, as against the relevance of HER HUSBAND'S OPINION in that context and moment.
If this part of the interview is shown widely in Congo and some other parts of Africa, it will probably form a tiny but real part of the journey there towards equality of rights and responsibilities between the sexes.
*Senior member of his government, whatever. I'm not precisely au fait with American Executive government arrangements.
1. Peace.
2. The end to the shocking amount of sexual violence there.
Prevalent sexual violence happens in places where women are seen as powerless and disposable, subject to men's will at all times they are unprotected by other men, and having no will of their own that needs to be listened to.
It was unfortunate that a mistranslation occurred, and Mrs Clinton wasn't asked about her President's opinion, which, as a member of his cabinet* and as a delegate for him, would have been a relevant question. However that mistranslation happened. Given what she was asked, her response, and even her vehemence was entirely appropriate. In that moment she was a foreign woman in Congo, in a powerful position in her own government, safe from attack and physical reprisal if she spoke out asserting her thoughts and her rights to hold and to do an important job. She had the safety to speak out shockingly and assertively into a conservative misogynist forum, about the importance of HER OPINION, as against the relevance of HER HUSBAND'S OPINION in that context and moment.
If this part of the interview is shown widely in Congo and some other parts of Africa, it will probably form a tiny but real part of the journey there towards equality of rights and responsibilities between the sexes.
*Senior member of his government, whatever. I'm not precisely au fait with American Executive government arrangements.
Totem wrote:
Touchy, touchy, Miss Hillary. Perhaps you should brush up on your diplomacy skills?
Frankly, anything different from the past 8 years for you guys has to be an improvement.
And I still don't think she was that bad. She was annoyed, and told off someone she thought asked an impertinent question. I love it when politicians do this, makes them seem more human and, most importantly, shows that they have a will of their own.
She was probably still a little bitter about Bill solving the whole North Korea thing going into this.
That was... umm.... uninteresting video. I guess I expected more.
Really, her voice and stuff seemed the same as it always does.
Really, her voice and stuff seemed the same as it always does.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Totem wrote:
I haven't been able to find any video of it online yet, but her voice gets shrill, her eyes kind of bug out, and her mouth tightens up from her lips going thin. From what I can see she is extremely sensitive about always being that other "less successful" Clinton, the one who only made salutatorian instead of valedictorian, lol.
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
Totem has issues.
Edited, Aug 11th 2009 8:25am by trickybeck
At the risk of sending certain people here into a mad temper tantrum and inciting foaming at the mouth, this is why I find myself still unable to fully fathom/support the idea of a female president. Yes, it could happen to anybody, but women have a tendency to.. fly off the hook sometimes. 
Edited, Aug 11th 2009 8:34am by BrownDuck
Edited, Aug 11th 2009 8:34am by BrownDuck
The Great BrownDuck wrote:
At the risk of sending certain people here into a mad temper tantrum and inciting foaming at the mouth, this is why I find myself still unable to fully fathom/support the idea of a female president. Yes, it could happen to anybody, but women have a tendency to.. fly off the hook sometimes.
Edited, Aug 11th 2009 8:34am by BrownDuck
Edited, Aug 11th 2009 8:34am by BrownDuck
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
Umm, Annabelle, to paraphrase you Lefties concerning conservative's preoccupation with Slick Willy, the Booosh administration isn't in office anymore. Cheney's hunting misadventures is so yesterday.
/yawn
;)
Totem
/yawn
;)
Totem
So, Elinda, you don't find the Hellbeast's reaction a wee bit over the top? You don't think she should have chuckled and lighthandedly kept on message rather than give the impression she feels inadequate for the job she holds? After all, you don't get all bent out of shape over stuff you don't consider important. As it is, it gives us a good look into how insecure Hillary is about her position in the Obama administration and how she stacks up against her husband.
She appears to be extremely frustrated living in Big Bill's shadow, the poor thing.
Totem
She appears to be extremely frustrated living in Big Bill's shadow, the poor thing.
Totem
They really need to keep track of Hil's monthlies and sequester her in a bunker for a few days.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
Totem wrote:
So, Elinda, you don't find the Hellbeast's reaction a wee bit over the top? You don't think she should have chuckled and lighthandedly kept on message rather than give the impression she feels inadequate for the job she holds? After all, you don't get all bent out of shape over stuff you don't consider important. As it is, it gives us a good look into how insecure Hillary is about her position in the Obama administration and how she stacks up against her husband.
She appears to be extremely frustrated living in Big Bill's shadow, the poor thing.
Totem
She appears to be extremely frustrated living in Big Bill's shadow, the poor thing.
Totem
Face it Totem - it's bias. People hear what they want to hear.
Edited, Aug 11th 2009 4:02pm by Elinda
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
The Great BrownDuck wrote:
At the risk of sending certain people here into a mad temper tantrum and inciting foaming at the mouth, this is why I find myself still unable to fully fathom/support the idea of a female president. Yes, it could happen to anybody, but women have a tendency to.. fly off the hook sometimes.
Edited, Aug 11th 2009 8:34am by BrownDuck
Edited, Aug 11th 2009 8:34am by BrownDuck
The Great BrownDuck wrote:
At the risk of sending certain people here into a mad temper tantrum and inciting foaming at the mouth, this is why I find myself still unable to fully fathom/support the idea of a female president. Yes, it could happen to anybody, but women have a tendency to.. fly off the hook sometimes.
Edited, Aug 11th 2009 8:34am by BrownDuck
Edited, Aug 11th 2009 8:34am by BrownDuck
Not so much that, but any forceful statement from a woman is interpreted this way.
Women act like men three days out of a month and y'all just stand aghast.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
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