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You Can't "Cure" the *****Follow

#27 Aug 07 2009 at 1:07 AM Rating: Good
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I guess I just assumed that was covered in the Malibu surfer comment. Haven't seen too many thugged out, bling wearing Tupac types riding the waves out here in Kali, but then again, I don't surf much out near Richmond/Oakland...

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#28 Aug 10 2009 at 1:21 AM Rating: Default
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As for the testosterone thing, it would be silly to think that brain chemicals DIDN'T have a huge impact on your sexuality, and it's likely that a hormonal change could sway you one way or the other.

You'd be surprised at the responses you get. I've had people get offended for suggesting some part of who they are is more or less chemistry.


I find people have difficulty accepting the truth in life. A drug addict always think they don't have a problem yet their chemical balance is so screwed up, they can't even see it from their perspective. Same principle with stages of depression and PTSD. I believe a similar chemical inbalance has a factor in determining our sexuality. Often times in the past, gays hid in the closet because it was 'wrong' to be gay. Now more people accept it much easier than 20 years ago. I do believe a drug could repress these gay hormones and make a person straight. However, any drug that promised to do that would only be attributed as gay bashing and protest groups would be marching over it. Still if you think about it, hormone drugs like people use for having a sex change seem to support my theory. It doesn't really matter to me. The world is over crowded enough, we really don't need more people to reproduce anyway.
#29 Aug 10 2009 at 2:09 AM Rating: Decent
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You'd be surprised at the responses you get. I've had people get offended for suggesting some part of who they are is more or less chemistry.


Well, it's complicated. Personal identity may be in part a function of chemistry, but if you subject an entity to a lot of chemistry changes and change their desires as well as behaviors, it's difficult to say that the person is the same entity anymore, in any meaningful sense. What I mean is, just because chemistry might constitute identity, changing the chemistry need not alter the identity, but instead supplant it. If that's too vague, then imagine replacing the bricks in your house with steel, knocking down some walls, and converting it to a wigget factory. It's not your house anymore, just as the consciousness of such a radically altered human would not be the original's mind anymore.

That is, if there is anything that we can call identity anyway. Maybe there isn't.

Edited, Aug 10th 2009 6:13am by Pensive
#30 Aug 10 2009 at 1:02 PM Rating: Good
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Sarren wrote:
I don't fully remember the details of the paper as it's been quite some time since I read it, but there was a study done on gay rams where they injected testosterone into a certain area of the brain and the result was they mated with female sheep for a period of time.

So, you know, if you're eager enough.


Somehow I don't think turning the gay community into a group of sheep ****** is going to help anything, except the price of sheep.
#31 Aug 10 2009 at 1:29 PM Rating: Decent
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I do believe a drug could repress these gay hormones and make a person straight. ... The world is over crowded enough, we really don't need more people to reproduce anyway.
At least you're not leaping to the obvious (and Joe Haldeman-esque) conclusion from these statements.
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