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#27 Jul 31 2009 at 11:24 AM Rating: Excellent
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Allegory wrote:
It's far too easy to Chinese Room online chess

I've never heard of "Chinese Room"ing anything but am I correct to assume this would involve running a chess program on Expert in the background and just copying its moves?
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#28 Jul 31 2009 at 11:26 AM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
Allegory wrote:
It's far too easy to Chinese Room online chess

I've never heard of "Chinese Room"ing anything but am I correct to assume this would involve running a chess program on Expert in the background and just copying its moves?


This was my first thought when I read the OP...

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The Chinese Room argument, devised by John Searle, is an argument against the possibility of true artificial intelligence. The argument centers on a thought experiment in which someone who knows only English sits alone in a room following English instructions for manipulating strings of Chinese characters, such that to those outside the room it appears as if someone in the room understands Chinese. The argument is intended to show that while suitably programmed computers may appear to converse in natural language, they are not capable of understanding language, even in principle.



Basically, if Varrus is Chinese Rooming the Chess game it means that he is following instructions from an outside source to make it seem like he knows how to play chess, when in fact he has no clue.

Impossible to prove one way or another without more proof (ie, webcam aimed at his computer and his face). Even then it could still be faked.

Edited, Jul 31st 2009 3:28pm by LockeColeMA
#29 Jul 31 2009 at 11:26 AM Rating: Default
Jophed,

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I've never heard of "Chinese Room"ing anything but am I correct to assume this would involve running a chess program on Expert in the background and just copying its moves?


I am an expert; why would I need to run a program?

Would you like to see?

#30 Jul 31 2009 at 11:26 AM Rating: Decent
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Yes, Johpiel.
#31 Jul 31 2009 at 11:29 AM Rating: Default
Allegory,

When I move I move quick. You would be able to tell if I was running another program to see how I should move. All this talking...why not test me and see.

#32 Jul 31 2009 at 11:32 AM Rating: Good
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Have you guys ever seen a picture of Varrus? Have you skyped with him??!?!? OMG. VARRUSSKYPE!
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#33 Jul 31 2009 at 11:32 AM Rating: Excellent
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publiusvarus wrote:
Would you like to see?

I'm at work, so no. Maybe this weekend. You'll almost certainly beat me as I never play but at least you'll have bragging rights that you defeated a guy whose last game was a year ago against a nine year old.
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#34REDACTED, Posted: Jul 31 2009 at 11:36 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Jophiel,
#35 Jul 31 2009 at 11:37 AM Rating: Default
Anna,

Have you seen any pictures of me?

I am on facebook.
#36 Jul 31 2009 at 11:38 AM Rating: Good
publiusvarus wrote:
Allegory,

When I move I move quick.


Thats what she said..


On a serious note, I would play you but it wouldn't be a fast game by any means. I spend too much time thinking ahead. Drives husband crazy.

As for Monoply I'm there!


publiusvarus wrote:
Anna,

Have you seen any pictures of me?

I am on facebook.


Not gona lie, I'm curious.

Edited, Jul 31st 2009 3:39pm by toohotforu
#37 Jul 31 2009 at 11:39 AM Rating: Default
Toot,

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On a serious note, I would play you but it wouldn't be a fast game by any means. I spend too much time thinking ahead. Drives husband crazy.


For you I would give you all the time you need.
#38 Jul 31 2009 at 11:41 AM Rating: Good
publiusvarus wrote:
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On a serious note, I would play you but it wouldn't be a fast game by any means. I spend too much time thinking ahead. Drives husband crazy.


For you I would give you all the time you need.


A softer kinder Varus?
#39 Jul 31 2009 at 11:41 AM Rating: Good
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publiusvarus wrote:
Anna,

Have you seen any pictures of me?

I am on facebook.


Oh, info plz.
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#40 Jul 31 2009 at 11:41 AM Rating: Excellent
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publiusvarus wrote:
You don't have 5 minutes for a game now?

Nope. Posting numbers aside, I'm typically alt-tabbing between here and several work-oriented tasks.
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#41 Jul 31 2009 at 11:42 AM Rating: Excellent
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No premium so I can't "quote" Samira's pic, but during a family scrabble game with my brother and I my father threw ***** up on the board. I laughed hysterically and when my younger brother asked what it meant he impersonated Bill Cosby for five minutes until he stopped asking.

Edited, Jul 31st 2009 3:42pm by Sarren
#42 Jul 31 2009 at 11:42 AM Rating: Good
Annabella, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
publiusvarus wrote:
Anna,

Have you seen any pictures of me?

I am on facebook.


Oh, info plz.
Oh good lord, I need to have varus on my flist in facebook. PM me your digits plox.
#43 Jul 31 2009 at 11:45 AM Rating: Good
Mindel wrote:
Annabella, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
publiusvarus wrote:
Anna,

Have you seen any pictures of me?

I am on facebook.


Oh, info plz.
Oh good lord, I need to have varus on my flist in facebook. PM me your digits plox.


Same here. I'm very curious. PM plz.
#44REDACTED, Posted: Jul 31 2009 at 11:46 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Toot,
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publiusvarus wrote:
You would be able to tell if I was running another program to see how I should move. All this talking...why not test me and see.

It is impossible to know with any certainty. If I could know with certainty I would immediately accepted the offer just to test my guess. I'm far more interested in my ability to accurately access your personality than I am in playing a game I haven't played since 3rd grade. I'd lose to anyone who has played the game intermittently.
#46 Jul 31 2009 at 11:50 AM Rating: Excellent
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#47 Jul 31 2009 at 11:55 AM Rating: Default
Allegory,

I own 2 very nice chess sets...one black and white marble...and here is the nicer one...

http://www.danburymint.com/secure/Content/ImagesProducts/100-03_z%5B1%5D.jpg
#48 Jul 31 2009 at 11:57 AM Rating: Excellent
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publiusvarus wrote:
Allegory,

I own 2 very nice chess sets...one black and white marble...and here is the nicer one...

http://www.danburymint.com/secure/Content/ImagesProducts/100-03_z%5B1%5D.jpg
Tee hee. I used to see those advertised in TV Guide all the time.
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#50 Jul 31 2009 at 11:59 AM Rating: Excellent
I have a handmade set in carved onyx that I bought in Mexico about years and years ago.
#51 Jul 31 2009 at 11:59 AM Rating: Excellent
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Tee hee. I used to see those advertised in TV Guide all the time.

That or the front window of the tobacco shop. I never could figure the connection between tobacco and pewter fantasy figurines.
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