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#1 Jul 24 2009 at 2:23 AM Rating: Decent
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Only very recently have I had to start paying for medical treatments. I'm a recently graduated 21 yr old - a year ago as a full time student aged 20 I paid for nada.

For about 9 years I didn't brush my teeth or look after them at all. This summer, in the middle of my finals in fact, it caught up with me and I started having terrible tooth pain and treatment.

First off: £400 for an emergancy part 1 root canal at a private dentist who saw me the next day. I could have gone for free to a hospital and waited but my mum was happy to pay up and given that it affected my exams, we just wanted it done with minimal hassle.

Since then I've been in pretty much every week to my local NHS dentist. Crowns, root canals, hygeinist check ups, fillings, the whole shebang. They charge a maximum of £200 a month for everything. So, for example, I could have 5 appointments in that time doing any type of work and I'd pay £200. I have paid £200. Oh, but I'm getting it back, because I've recently made the giddy transition from student to jobseeker and jobseekers don't pay for dental treatment. So I'm going to the jobcentre with the receipts from the practice.

I'm also going to pick up my backdated £50 pw that all jobseekers get, and see about having at least a month or two of my £450 / month rent covered by housing benefit, because jobseekers get help paying their rent if they can't cover it themselves.

That's all. :)
#2 Jul 24 2009 at 2:35 AM Rating: Good
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9 years without brushing... yuk
#3 Jul 24 2009 at 2:38 AM Rating: Decent
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Yeah, but the important point is the decadent European healthcare system has made it all better, rewarding me for my lack of self respect!
#4 Jul 24 2009 at 2:59 AM Rating: Default
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I missed the latter part of your post, you disgraceful sponger!
#5 Jul 24 2009 at 5:13 AM Rating: Good
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I feel gross if I don't brush my teeth at least twice a day :-/ Flossing is my bane; I do it for like a week, just get over the bleeding gums stage, then forget for a month and start all over again. Ick! Fun fact: if your gums bleed because of flossing, you don't do it enough. Your gums get infected by all the crap in your mouth and inflamed; and only inflamed gums will bleed. Well, unless you're flossing with a vengeance and trying to draw blood.
#6 Jul 24 2009 at 5:14 AM Rating: Good
I keep a thingy of floss in my purse and floss at red lights.
#7 Jul 24 2009 at 5:21 AM Rating: Good
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The use of the British pound symbol and an admission of having bad teeth. Why am I not surprised?

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#8 Jul 24 2009 at 5:31 AM Rating: Good
LockeColeMA wrote:
I feel gross if I don't brush my teeth at least twice a day :-/ Flossing is my bane; I do it for like a week, just get over the bleeding gums stage, then forget for a month and start all over again. Ick! Fun fact: if your gums bleed because of flossing, you don't do it enough. Your gums get infected by all the crap in your mouth and inflamed; and only inflamed gums will bleed. Well, unless you're flossing with a vengeance and trying to draw blood.
My gums always bleed when I floss with a jigsaw.
#9REDACTED, Posted: Jul 24 2009 at 5:32 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Yousy,
#10 Jul 24 2009 at 5:40 AM Rating: Excellent
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Yousy,

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First off: £400 for an emergancy part 1 root canal at a private dentist who saw me the next day. I could have gone for free to a hospital and waited but my mum was happy to pay up and given that it affected my exams, we just wanted it done with minimal hassle.


More of that great UK govn care I see.

What's with you brits and your teeth?
I broke my thumb last year and went to an emergency room in Fairfax County, Virginia, where I waited, bleeding, for three hours to see a doctor. Long waits in the ER are one thing you can't blame on socialized medicine.


ETA: The whole experience cost more than my first car.

Edited, Jul 24th 2009 9:44am by Mindel
#11 Jul 24 2009 at 5:47 AM Rating: Good
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True story:
My wife and I on our trip through Europe a couple of months ago were visiting the Ryks Museum in Amsterdam. Behind us were an English couple who, upon introducing ourselves, proceeded to regale us about life in merry olde england. Immediately, the husband made a joke (which was lost on us, prolly due to cultural differences) which exposed his chompers in a braying laugh. It was utterly startling to see these yellow masticators which to my eyes appeared to be Mr. Ed's on a bad day.

His wife then smiled broadly at her husband's fun-nay, whereupon she exposed her front teeth, one of which was gray! My goodness, it took every ounce of concentration not to stare.

Having the stereotype bourne out in such a manner was as shocking as it must have been for NaughtyWord to truly discover Chinese men truly do have small d1cks. Imagine!

Totem

Edited, Jul 24th 2009 9:48am by Totem
#12REDACTED, Posted: Jul 24 2009 at 6:03 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Mindel,
#13 Jul 24 2009 at 6:10 AM Rating: Good
publiusvarus wrote:
Mindel,

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I broke my thumb last year and went to an emergency room in Fairfax County, Virginia, where I waited, bleeding, for three hours to see a doctor


If your thumb was bleeding for 3 hours you are a ******. You know we have things like gauzes and medical tape, don't you? You've heard of putting a bleeding appendage in a bucket of ice water havn't you? The doctors were probably laughing their *** off while taking bets on how long you'd last before you passed out.



I was applying pressure with gauze that the triage nurse kindly provided, which replaced the sweater I had been using. I have clotting issues unrelated to my mental and emotional development. I doubt the doctors had much time to laugh, though, with the multiple-car accident, the man who'd managed to sever his leg with some piece of construction equipment, the woman who'd been stabbed, and the kid who showed up with bleach and bits of glass in his eye.
#14 Jul 24 2009 at 6:10 AM Rating: Decent
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publiusvarus wrote:
You've heard of putting a bleeding appendage in a bucket of ice water havn't you


I'm no doctor, but that doesn't sound right at all Smiley: dubious
#15 Jul 24 2009 at 6:17 AM Rating: Decent
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catwho the Mundane wrote:
I keep a thingy of floss in my purse and floss at red lights.
I use floss picks and floss while commuting to work (it's a one-handed deal with the floss picks).
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#16 Jul 24 2009 at 6:17 AM Rating: Excellent
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publiusvarus wrote:
You've heard of putting a bleeding appendage in a bucket of ice water havn't you


I'm no doctor, but that doesn't sound right at all Smiley: dubious
No, ice water will help to slow bleeding. The cold causes your blood vessels to constrict, which slows the flow of blood to the wound. Of course, it massively increases the risk for infection and generally when administering first aid, one would be advised to apply an ice pack near, but not directly on the wound in an effort to keep it as clean as possible.

But we can just assume that advanced ziploc technology hasn't hit the small okra-farming communities of the U.S. of A. yet, and out there they just dump out whatever rusty metal bucket they can find and go to town.
#17REDACTED, Posted: Jul 24 2009 at 6:28 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Mindel,
#18 Jul 24 2009 at 6:30 AM Rating: Decent
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First aid features heavily in the police and cuts are dealt with by bandages, not water...

Unless American cuts are different?
#19 Jul 24 2009 at 6:30 AM Rating: Good
publiusvarus wrote:
Mindel,

That's why you keep Iodine handy. Ice packs are garbage, they take way too long.

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I doubt the doctors had much time to laugh, though, with the multiple-car accident, the man who'd managed to sever his leg with some piece of construction equipment, the woman who'd been stabbed, and the kid who showed up with bleach and bits of glass in his eye.


and you wondered why they took a little longer getting to your thumb?

No, my point was that it had nothing to do with government-run healthcare. Such delays are typical here in the good old pay-as-you-go USA.
#20 Jul 24 2009 at 6:33 AM Rating: Good
Goggy wrote:
First aid features heavily in the police and cuts are dealt with by bandages, not water...

Unless American cuts are different?
A very deep cut that's bleeding profusely can be slowed down by cold. Police and medics have access to tourniquets, which are generally much, much better in situations like that. An ice pack helps if you have nothing better to use. Of course, then you dump a bunch of iodine on the whole mess and all's better!
#21 Jul 24 2009 at 6:34 AM Rating: Decent
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Yes. ARC First Aid teaches direct pressure with a clean dressing for bleeding wounds. Elevation if possible - and make sure you use Universal Precautions (specially with Mindel).

Varus, you could probably just let your dogs lick your wounds clean.







Edited, Jul 24th 2009 4:35pm by Elinda
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#22 Jul 24 2009 at 6:39 AM Rating: Decent
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More of that great UK govn care I see.


Varrus makes a good point.

You're in my position in America. 4pm, friday afternoon in a big city. You have 3 exams the next week and are curled up on your bed dribbling into the mattress trying not scream. You have no health plan and aren't registered with a dentist. What happens?

In Britain: if you're sensible and know what to do (calling an NHS support line saying "I've an owwy in my mouth! :(" is a different story; let's assume you don't get lost in beaurocracy) you search online or call and ask for a local dental hospital with an out of hours service. You get seen in a few hours. It costs nothing if you're on benefits. It costs about £100 if you're not.
#23 Jul 24 2009 at 6:39 AM Rating: Good
Elinda wrote:
Yes. ARC First Aid teaches direct pressure with a clean dressing for bleeding wounds. Elevation if possible - and make sure you use Universal Precautions (specially with Mindel).

Varus, you could probably just let your dogs lick your wounds clean.
It's my own fault, really. I obtained my vWF via Affirmative Action. Smiley: frown
#24 Jul 24 2009 at 6:42 AM Rating: Good
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9 years without brushing... yuk


Yeah, but think of the savings he made in not buying toothpaste!

I brush twice a day, but had a period where I drank an unhealthy amount of Coke and smoked loads and ate loads of sweets, so eventually I had teeth problems too. Root canal treatment was possible the most physically painful thing I experienced. I could feel my nerve inside my tooth screaming with agony. Just remembering that operation, I can still feel the pain as if it happened yesterday, eventhough it was a few years ago...

I don't think I've drank a Coke since then.
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#25 Jul 24 2009 at 6:46 AM Rating: Excellent
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More of that great UK govn care I see.


Varrus makes a good point.

You're in my position in America. 4pm, friday afternoon in a big city. You have 3 exams the next week and are curled up on your bed dribbling into the mattress trying not scream. You have no health plan and aren't registered with a dentist. What happens?

In Britain: if you're sensible and know what to do (calling an NHS support line saying "I've an owwy in my mouth! :(" is a different story; let's assume you don't get lost in beaurocracy) you search online or call and ask for a local dental hospital with an out of hours service. You get seen in a few hours. It costs nothing if you're on benefits. It costs about £100 if you're not.


In US: You call every dentist within reasonable driving distance, then every dentist within unreasonable driving distance. This proves pointless, because they don't work weekends, and if they did, they'd be booked anyway. You get an appointment for next Wednesday, swallow a bottle of advil, and pray for death. Saturday morning you realize you cannot bear it a moment longer, make your way to an ER or Urgent Care clinic where, after sitting in a cramped, cold waiting room amongst a veritable menagerie of human decay and disease, you're seen by doctor who can't fix your ******* teeth anyway but gives you a script for vicodin. You fill it, go home, and crawl in to a narcotic coma. Tuesday morning you call 911 because you can't feel your face. You're rushed to the hospital where it's discovered you have a massive abscess which has burst in to your brain. You die and your next of kin receives a stack of medical bills likely totaling more than your average annual salary.
#26 Jul 24 2009 at 6:49 AM Rating: Decent
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Ah, I see Mindel speaks from experience.

That sucks Red, they should have given you proper sedation. =/
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