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I think the trouble zepoodle is that you need to do that. You made some sweeping statements. I might disagree with you but I won't think you are a moron of Brownduckian proportions.

Edited, Jul 29th 2009 2:38pm by Annabella

It's Schrödinger's chat up line. You can't be sure until you open the box.

Which is to say my pants.

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The length of that sentence is really nothing special.

I'm going to go ahead and grant that we were making different points that were actually compatible, because upon further clarification, I don't disagree with what you probably meant, even if what you initially said was squirrelly.


I am not going to blame the effectors of change or even strife for standing up for themselves, regardless of what the results of the already unjust society are in response to them. Just because the consequences don't end up where I want them to be doesn't give me the right to abandon whatever methods I might want to advocate as ethical.

My first love was a Georgia girl.

BUT THE GAYS HAVE AIDS

Ignoring the fact that what you said made no sense, I don't think Gates was standing up for his rights. What rights was he standing up for? The right to ***** at a police officer because he's had a bad day? The policeman didn't start abusing his authority until after Gates had pursued the confrontation past its sensible end point. Before then it was just run-of-the-mill annoyance.

If Gates had organised, I don't know, a pride march that ended in a violent riot leaving several wounded or dead, then what you said would apply because his horribly counterproductive methods would be justified by his noble cause. This isn't that. This is Gates arguing with a cop at his door because some dumb ***** thought he was robbing his own house. Gates wasn't effecting change or strife in the fight for recognition of black people's rights. He was being an asshat to another asshat in a police hat, and the both of them acting like asshats got onto the national news and now everyone is wearing their asses as hats and the whole place is reaching a near-terminal level of asshattery.

Maybe Varus wants some of his farm animals involved, and didn't count them because they aren't people.

Clarify. You could either be talking about the first sentence, and failing to understand how advocating co-operation with authority is blaming the victims of it, or the second sentence, and failing to understand deontology.



Well, free speech is pretty ******* important in my opinion, and that includes the freedom to tell an officer to go to hell and **** himself, with any extent of vehemence and color, provided that you aren't trying to hurt him. That should honestly be par for the course even in public, but this case isn't even that. It's on Gate's own goddamned property. Racially motivated or not, I don't care in regards to that particular offense. It's bad if it was racially motivated but even if it wasn't, at all, this would be a breach of justice. Gate's being black is icing on the **** cake, turning an ordinary abuse of power into a racial abuse of power.

This is in fact a right.

******** out is not an arrestable offense. Cops are supposed to be trained for this type of situation, they're no supposed to be just some schmuck at a bar who will throw a punch if you insult him. I think any cop who has worked a major protest has probably taken much worse than this guy did; the ones who are doing their job simply stand their ground until there is a physical act perpetrated.

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Says you. That depends on who's interpreting, no? Telling an officer that he has "no idea who he's messing with" and that "he had not heard the last of it" could very easily be considered a threat of violence. At the very least, they could be categorized as words "or which tend to incite the average person to immediate violence".