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Annoying to who?

I just think that it's faintly hilarious that someone would dismiss someone else's opinions on racial and social problems because of their racial or social status.

Why?

This is what your years of experience in social psychology taught you?

I just think that it's faintly hilarious that someone would dismiss someone else's opinions on racial and social problems because of their racial or social status.

I agree, it's ludicrous. It's like dismissing the opinion of which tampon feels best just because the person offering the opinion is a man.

C'mon anna...thats Prejudice and profiling right there....


Not saying you're wrong or anything but really......



I'm sorry to say that I think pretty much everyone on the planet is a racist, to some extent or another. I'm married to an Indian, and i still definately have negative views about some 'races'.

the difference between some people and their racism (imo), is that some of us know it is wrong as soon as the thought comes into our heads, and do our best to supress those unwelcome thoughts, rather than use them as an excuse to judge .

To think that the cops or the neighbour or anyone else is exempt from racism is alsmost the definition of sticking your head in the sand.

Discussion became rapidly polarized... as it often does about race. It makes me really sad, personally, that we can't talk about race without one side being racist privileged *****, and the other side being self-righteous privileged *****, and it's also kind of weird for me to be acting moderately about something.

It's also a wonderful opportunity to put off a paper.

Oh, whoa, I was talking about the lady who phoned the cops, not the cops themselves.

Not a very good bluffer so I never actively looked into it, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense considering I did way too much of the acting stuff in high school.



No, but my original statement wasn't as general as the lottery being a boon to the poor as a whole. If the original person said the lottery was a boon for one, specific, named person, it wouldn't be a proper counter to state "Well it results in an overall loss for everyone else!" That's great and true and all, but it in no way proves or even mildly shows that it wasn't useful for that one poor person.

I pointed it out that it was ridiculous to assume the call was only made because the people were black. Anna's reply was that I was trying to pretend that racism doesn't exist. No. It does. I never said anything to the contrary because only a special kind of idiot would even imply something like that. The prevalence and existence of racism in a certain area does not allow the assumption that any 911 call made was fueled by racism simply because the "criminals" were black. Particularly given the constant evidence to the contrary in the one specific situation I'm talking about. The judicial system being fucked up and the behavior of the officer on that day doesn't mean that Lucia Whalen was racist.



Do show me where I ever caved or changed my opinion on the subject.


Edited, Jul 27th 2009 8:45pm by CBD

You caught me. I really was happy that Smash and I worked together (I mean, did you see the happy, sharing emotions and camaraderie?) to conclude something I had been saying for two pages now. I couldn't have done it without his help and I can only hope he'll reward me with a healthy dose of *****. It was an overt display of emotion and I promise it won't happen again.

Seriously?

Edited, Jul 27th 2009 8:52pm by CBD

No, but my original statement wasn't as general as the lottery being a boon to the poor as a whole. If the original person said the lottery was a boon for one, specific, named person, it wouldn't be a proper counter to state "Well it results in an overall loss for everyone else!" That's great and true and all, but it in no way proves or even mildly shows that it wasn't useful for that one poor person.

No, but the fact that the person one doesn't make the decision to play a good one retroactively, and the fact (let's stipulate there was one here) that this arrest wasn't the direct result of the color of Gates skin doesn't mean that it isn't usually the case.

This case is meaningless in the abstract. There is no way to establish the counter factual case. Would the police have been called were this random WASP Harvard Prof #19? We'll never know. You study statistics, so let's look at them. While it's a diverse faculty, most Harvard Profs are white guys. While many don't reside in Cambridge, some do. I'm too lazy to research this, but heuristically, I don't think it's much of a stretch for us to stipulate that in the last 100 years more white men then black men have taught at Harvard while living nearby. Let's say, conservatively, twice as many. Let's also stipulate that there is no genetic predisposition for Caucasian men to have doors that fail less often. Let's also stipulate that the probability of some white prof having to jiggle his door to get in, or break a window, or whatever other attention attracting act having occurred in the last 100 years is greater than 99%.

How many of them have had police show up? Guessing, I'd think a few. How many of them have been handcuffed and taken to jail.

None.

That's where we are if you really want to try and make a determination here as to the likelihood of race mattering.

No one's arguing it's 1959. My black neighbor doesn't get pulled over daily for driving his Porche Boxter home from work (although he should, he's a douchebag), but he tells me it's happened. I doubt it's to elicit sympathy, as I tell him that growing up on K street we didn't discriminate, we'd throw a brick through anyone's Porche.

There is CBD, desperate to change his point.