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#1 Jul 07 2009 at 7:09 PM Rating: Default
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Anyone know a website that gives or have access to the solutions/answers to some AberMud quests?
#2 Jul 08 2009 at 1:02 AM Rating: Good
www.google.com


Apparently, URL tags are broken or I shouldn't post at 2 A.M.

Edited, Jul 8th 2009 3:03am by Darkdoom
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Edited, Jul 8th 2009 3:03am by Darkdoom
#4 Jul 08 2009 at 1:15 AM Rating: Decent
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DuoMaxwellxx wrote:
Anyone know a website that gives or have access to the solutions/answers to some AberMud quests?



ive tried google multiple times, and no luck, looks like i finally found something google CANT find, unless of course im doing it wrong and youd like to show me how its done?
#5 Jul 08 2009 at 7:54 AM Rating: Good
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I found this website with some links to different ones some with forums on them. Granted most of them look like they haven't been updated in awhile but you might find something useful there.

http://www.abermud.info/mudlist/showme.php

I'm still not entirely sure what an abermud is but good luck.
#6 Jul 08 2009 at 9:08 AM Rating: Decent
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Darkdoom the Venerable wrote:
Google


Apparently, URL tags are broken or I shouldn't post at 2 A.M.

Edited, Jul 8th 2009 3:03am by Darkdoom
I think the latter.
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#7 Jul 08 2009 at 8:40 PM Rating: Default
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I found this website with some links to different ones some with forums on them. Granted most of them look like they haven't been updated in awhile but you might find something useful there.

http://www.abermud.info/mudlist/showme.php

I'm still not entirely sure what an abermud is but good luck.



heh thats not what i was looking for either, thats just a list of abermuds (think of it as a list of old school mmorpgs) im not looking for a list of old school mmorpgs im looking for a site (or someone) who has the guides to the QUESTS found in those old school mmorpgs lol
#8 Jul 09 2009 at 3:53 AM Rating: Good
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What is an AberMud?
#9DuoMaxwellxx, Posted: Jul 09 2009 at 10:25 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) that question is answered in my last post. >.>
#10 Jul 09 2009 at 1:42 PM Rating: Good
MUD stands for Multi User Dungeon - basically a really really old school text based multiplayer rpg .

AberMUD was one of the first really popular ones , with the Aber standing for the town where it was created, Aberystwyth .

Asking for help or tips on quests is generally frowned upon in MUD communities though, and I think not having everything written out makes the games far more enjoyable to play .
#11 Jul 09 2009 at 3:20 PM Rating: Good
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Never mind.
I did know what M U D can stand for. It was the aber in front that had me wondering.


Edited, Jul 9th 2009 7:22pm by Jonwin
#12 Jul 09 2009 at 7:49 PM Rating: Decent
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MUD stands for Multi User Dungeon - basically a really really old school text based multiplayer rpg .

AberMUD was one of the first really popular ones , with the Aber standing for the town where it was created, Aberystwyth .

Asking for help or tips on quests is generally frowned upon in MUD communities though, and I think not having everything written out makes the games far more enjoyable to play .




youre right about not having everything written out makes it far more enjoyable, but what happens when youve tried everything you can and been stuck for days, youre saying then you should quit or stop playing rather than get help?

Now it would be different if I never tried that quest on my own first and just wanted someone to tell me how to do it from beginning to end without me ever attempting to do it on my own first (i.e those people who get on wiki and look up exactly what to do on a quest or mission in ffxi on day one right out the gate.)Ill at least try something first then if i get stuck ask for help.

Besides some of those quests are extremely vague and obscure, for example theres one quest in which a part of it requires you to make a bomb and before you actually make the bomb they dont even tell you what it is your supposed to be making, so you didnt even know it was gonna be a bomb until it was actually made all you get is a piece of paper and a crucible from an apothecarys shop, all that paper tells you is (and i quote) "mix carbon, sulphur, and a nitrous oxidizing agent into the crucible" ok sulphur was easy theres an item called sulphur sitting right next to you in the same place you got the crucible and paper.


Ok all you know is the remaining two items are in the town somewhere where the quest takes place, no clue as to where in the town they maybe, and the town has roughly 50 different rooms/areas so there are 50 possible places those last two items could be and no clue on where to start your search for them, also theres no item called "carbon" or "nitrous oxidizing agent" (or even nitrous oxide) in the game so even if you stumbled upon it you wouldnt know what it was unless you were exceptionally intelligent.

So finally I go to to wiki and look up carbon and nitrous oxidizing agents and i didnt find anything useful so i tried a different approach and started looking up items ive foudn in teh quest areas on wiki, one of the many items i looked up that i had found was charcoal and sure enough wiki mentioned carbon in its page regarding charcoal, another one of many items i looked up was fertilizer and sure enough wiki mentioned nitrous oxide (or nitrous) somewhere on its fertilizer page, so i mixed those 3 items and sure enough a bomb was made. now keep in mind MUDs came out in the 90s this was way before the days of sites like wiki, so back then how many people would have beensmart enough to completely figure that out on their own? how many of YOU could have without any assistance known to mix the charcoal and fertilizer yyu found with the sulphur when the paper told you to mix sulphur carbon and a nitrous oxidizing agent?


so yeah not everyone would have figured stuff like that out so asking for help with things that could get that difficult is surely understandable lol theyre not like those very little brainpower requiring quests of mmorpgs today lol. Also just to elaborate on help for quests being frowned upon I might agree 10 years ago when MUDS were stll popular but now youre lucky to see even 1 player actively playing, who cares if someone has their hand held or cheats in a dead game? Thayre like the original Doom and Quake now back when they first came out they were popular and got the utmost treatment from their developers, nowadays they so dead the developers give the games source code out for free to allow people to do whatever they want to them, thats how i look at having help in MUD quests these days to be.

Edited, Jul 10th 2009 3:36pm by DuoMaxwellxx
#13 Jul 10 2009 at 12:37 PM Rating: Default
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so yeah does that sound like something EVERYONE would have figure out with no help whatsoever?
#14 Jul 10 2009 at 12:47 PM Rating: Excellent
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No, you're right. It would take a genius to figure out that charcoal contains carbon, and fertilizer contains nitrogen. Smiley: rolleyes

At any rate, you might have better luck finding help in the multi-game forum?



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#15 Jul 10 2009 at 1:31 PM Rating: Decent
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No, you're right. It would take a genius to figure out that charcoal contains carbon, and fertilizer contains nitrogen. Smiley: rolleyes

At any rate, you might have better luck finding help in the multi-game forum?





lol the average person wouldnt have known that, the average person just uses charcoal and fertilizer they dont bother to know whats actually IN it lol
#16 Jul 10 2009 at 1:41 PM Rating: Decent
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DuoMaxwellxx wrote:
lol the average person wouldnt have known that, the average person just uses charcoal and fertilizer they dont bother to know whats actually IN it lol

Average people also can't read fast enough to bother playing a MUD in the first place. Besides which, if you didn't know charcoal has carbon, there's just no goddamn hope for you. On a side note, 50 rooms is not a large area to search in a MUD. Move east. No items here? Okay, north.
#17 Jul 10 2009 at 2:20 PM Rating: Decent
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DuoMaxwellxx wrote:
lol the average person wouldnt have known that, the average person just uses charcoal and fertilizer they dont bother to know whats actually IN it lol

I suppose you should have paid better attention in chemistry. Of course the average person is smart enough to google answers to basic questions.
#18 Jul 10 2009 at 6:17 PM Rating: Good
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I never took chem, and even I could have figured out the charcoal/carbon thing, and I probably would have guessed the fertilizer/nitrous thing quick enough.
#19 Jul 11 2009 at 3:04 PM Rating: Good
I play MUDS today - admittedly not abermud, but a fair few others . And I worked really hard to figure out the quests - some of which were incredibly frustrating to me at first because I'd actually gotten into them through a friend in FFXI, so was used to having all the quests mapped out for me .

I actually had a lot of fun figuring out the quests - and while there were some cryptic ones such as your bomb quest, they were generally not *too* hard to work out . I would have pegged charcoal for carbon pretty quickly , although being me, I might also have tried a diamond if I'd found one . Fertiliser, perhaps not so quickly, but I'd have stubbornly tried every possible combination I could think of until I got it right .

That's how I got through most of the quests - sheer pigheadedness. And it made it fun, and immensely challenging - precisely the reason why 4 years after starting my first MUD, I'm still playing . There are still so many things I still want to finish off, and I'll keep trying til I do :)

Not everyone is cut out to play a MUD the way it was intended, I appreciate that . Not everyone has the sheer pigheadedness to just keep playing and keep trying . But the real players do , and they stick to the gameplan of not asking for help, or babysitting others through the game . There is a real stubborn spirit in a lot of MUD players, and that's why you'll find it extremely hard to find information online .

I'm not criticising you, I'm just saying that the people who did as I've done, and stubbornly figured stuff out, aren't likely to then go, 'Whew, that was hard. Wouldn't want anyone else to struggle,let me stick it online so someone else has an easy ride'

We're far more likely to say 'I struggled, you can struggle too!'
#20 Jul 11 2009 at 3:05 PM Rating: Good
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That chemical mix is even quite well known as a very basic recipe for home made explosives, almost as well known as the one for cheapo-homemade gaseous chemical weapons.
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