Publiusvarus wrote:
On the contrary Obama is the culmination of the Democrats efforts to socialize america. Tell me do you think the banking, auto, and now energy industries would have been taken over by the US govn had a member of the GOP been elected president? And now he's trying to nationalize healthcare. So when I say Democrats that does include the president. And this economy is Obama's despite Biden, and every other Democrat, loudly proclaiming it's worse than they first thought. It's worse now for sure. That's because govn can't solve economic problems better than a free market regardless of how much money they confiscate from the employers and distribute to the non-producers.
Do you mean the banking, auto, and energy companies that flew to Washington, DC (some on chartered jets) begging for government assistance because they spent the last decade making bad business decisions? The ones that got $700 billion dollars appropriated while George W. Bush was still President? Those companies? To the extent that they were "taken over by the US govn", they beggrd for it. I laughed because it is/was the biggest transfer of private capital to the government ever and it happened with Bush in office.
You (and others) keep saying socialism like it's an evil, bad word. You do realise that your local police department is socialism, as is the fire department, public libraries, public schools, and subsidised higher education (in-state tuition).
Do you really think our current system of delivering health care is efficient? I hear people say, "I don't want socialised medicine, I'm NOT paying for it". Guess what?, You already are. Every time some deadbeat uses the ER and doesn't pay, you do with higher fees. The uninsured cost the rest of us, just not as directly. When people use the ER (the most expensive place you can go) for their first line medical treatment because they have no insurance, it costs us all.