Honduras DemocracyFollow

1. Beatrix should be the reigning monarch, Sealand is Dutch.
2. Rice?
3. New Zealand
4. Wales?
5. None?
6. Greenland?
7. British empire?
8. They're Irish?
9. Not near where I'm living.
10. Eurasia


As for a decent excercise, naming all the countries in the world isn't bad.

Edited, Jun 30th 2009 1:57pm by Zieveraar

Naw, you are just an annoying ****.

He attempted to change the constitution - it would have gone out to popular vote had he not been forcibly removed from office.

You think it's appropriate for one branch of government to sidle up with the military, oust the elected government - by force, and put in their own people - without a vote?

Elinda,

You think it's ok for a president to illegally change the constitution to extend his term indefinitly? Boy you sure do love dictators.

What if W had illegally changed the constitution to allow no term limits and decided to stay in office indefinitly?

Except that's not what happened. He wanted to put that portion of the Constitution to a popular vote. IF it passed, he would be able to RUN again. If elected, he would have another term. He can't just "decide" anything. And because the referendum was declared illegal by the courts, the correct LEGAL response would have been impeachment or simply nullifying any referendum. Instead there was a military coup.

He'd be laughed at.

You know this doesn't even warrant a response.

If you want to support complete by-pass of the democratic process in favor of a military overthrow of a government - go for it. Leave 'W' out of this as I'm sure even he doesn't support a coup d'etat.

Yes. And that's not what YOU said he did. YOU said he illegally changed the terms of the constitution. No, he didn't. And the change he pursued was not for indefinite terms for himself in particular.



He decided to do a referendum; again, not what YOU said.



The correct legal response would be what I said. The incorrect one is using the military to oust a standing leader. When a segment of the government overthrows another using force, it is a coup.
1. n. A sudden and decisive action in politics, esp. one resulting in a change of government illegally or by force.



Then fine! The courts would have then been able to rule if it was an illegal or not. If it was, then Congress could impeach him and Cheney could take over for the remainder of the time. The elections would still go on as planned. If the Democrats had hijacked the military and exiled him to Britain without him being impeached, I would have been pissed off. Political affiliation doesn't matter to me in this case... probably because I'm not a Democrat or a Republican. Neither does the fact that it would be Dubyah doing this; any legally elected president overthrown by the military makes me uneasy without due process of law.

Elinda,

Look at who's supporting the ousted president. That should tell you everything you need to know. Do you think Castro is pro-democracy? How about Chavez? How about Ortega? Come on woman think. This guy was trying to change the constitution to stay in power. The supreme court said no. This is not the supreme court illegally ousting a president they don't like. This is the supreme court defending the law and democracy.

Jophed,

Do you think Ortega, Castro, and Chavez are pro-democracy?

What does it matter? It's not the issue here.

Who cares? Does Chavez dictate US foreign policy now? Whatever Chavez does, we're oathbound to do the opposite regardless of reasons because "OHNO CHAVEZ SUPPORTED IT!!!"?

Yeesh.

The administration made a public statement about both, how is that meddling? Are they doing something else with Honduras?

also, the US might be slightly more tied in to Honduras.

Edited, Jun 30th 2009 3:21pm by Xsarus