For you PollstersFollow

Given the tendency of people to ignore the big picture for how they feel today it's hardly surprising that when Obama didn't do the impossible and immediately cure the economy his approval ratings would subside somewhat. What's your point?

looking at the graph it's been pretty steady since march.

Edited, Jun 22nd 2009 4:54pm by Xsarus

"Strongly Approve" vs "Strongly Disapprove"? Where's "approve" and "disapprove" in the equation?

Gallup is using only approve/disapprove to inadvertently paint the picture in a different frame, for those who care to be thorough:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/gallup-daily-obama-job-approval.aspx

So yes, the number of strongly disapproving people is going up and the number of strongly approving people is going down. Overall, the level of disapproval is going up, and the level of approval is very slightly starting to slack.

These are for you, varus. Have a ball.

People have been spouting crap about how the "honeymoon phase" is over for months now. Honeymoons last a week usually, anyway, what gives?



Edited, Jun 23rd 2009 12:08am by bsphil

This. A slight increase in disapproval of any form doesn't really show anything other than "Oh, people don't like Obama for what he did recently." If you want to show that people don't like Obama, you'd need a constant level of higher disapproval than approval. You don't have that.

Rasmussen's approval data has been consistantly lower than anyone else's by a significant degree but it's not really a point worth arguing.

Edited, Jun 23rd 2009 7:07am by Jophiel

I mentioned polling during the election. But election polling is a somewhat different animal. For one thing, you're asking about intended actions (Will you vote for X or Y?) rather than feelings (Do you like X?). For another, you have a definate proof to how accurate your poll was -- did your percentages match the results? It's harder to prove that 35% of a group disapproves of something.

I don't mention approval polling much unless someone is claiming that everyone is mad at Obama. In reality, his approval (and disapproval) numbers have been pretty stable since March, though there's some mild slide in the last two weeks. Incidentally, looking at that chart you can see the curiousness of Rasmussen's numbers. Not really the approvals but the disapprovals which are 10+ points higher than anyone else. Either Scott Rasmussen has a lot of cranky people in his phone book or else he's using a significantly different metric to determine disapproval than anyone else.

Edited, Jun 23rd 2009 9:23am by Jophiel

"Validate"? I don't think that word means what you think it means.

ITT: Varus bases his hatred of Obama on polls.

*actually on his misreading of polls

Ah, the nebulous "you people". Always with the "you people"

Jophed,



The editorial "you people". You don't really expect me to spend time perusing all the anti W threads "you people" created over the last 8yrs do you?



Xarus,



Show me? I'm the most compassionate person on this site. I believe in that american can do attitude. I believe a person doesn't need the govn to survive in this country. If anything you're the one whose views hold people back.

When you can just make vague accusations? Of course not.