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Of course, it would be ridiculous to try and get into a war in hopes that it will fix the economy.

Though It is just silly when people think the New Deal is what got the U.S out of the Great Depression.

In general the same cause.

Government F#cking with stuff.
Government F#cking with stuff.

Slight variations on what stuff and to what degree.

Heh.

Oh noes! I responded so I must care!

Your "analysis" was so simplistic as to necessitate no response. Like that better?

Which reminds me yet again of this:

Yeah, not like "money and bankers were involved both times!" is a hard concept for me to grasp.

Not when you do so in such general terms. That's my point.

Wow even in the haze of pain and weakness of recovering from server dehydration, the arguments you are trying to prove fail with just a little knowledge of historical truths.

Before New Deal and Social Security:

Job loses from business going under when banks fail lead to social undress, uprisings, riots, as people found themselves unable to get jobs that would pay living wages where they could take care of their family and not starve.

New Deal: Help limit the social unrest, by making jobs for Americans, keeping them off the streets food on their tables and gave the Country Major Infrastructure projects and Public Art. Hoover Dam and the TVA wouldn't have been built without Roosevelt trying to find ways he could put the unemployed back to work. Even just hiring an struggling artist to teach pre-schoolers had long reaching results, as they went on to teach Art Education at NYU and one of the students he mentor, became head of Towson University's Art Education Program. I can see how a New Deal job still ripples though the classroom of art teachers all along the east
coast.

Social Security has help American work longer and have healthier lives without fear of poverty when they can no longer work. As Americans can work longer then when SS was first pass, attitudes about the elderly also has change.Employers benefit, as their workers don't have to worry about working until they die on the job, letting the employers train new worker ahead of time to step into their jobs.

Short answer is that workers are far more productive when they have less to worry about taking care of themselves and family members.

Elne,



Complete BS. Americans are able to work longer and have healthier lives due to numerous reasons; i.e. advances in medicine. Now people don't live in fear of poverty they expect the govn to feed them if they decide they're to good to take that job at mcdonalds. This in turn hurts the economy as the producers are forced to care for greater numbers of non-producers. Do you really expect the generations of people after the baby boomers to work half the year to pay for the baby boomers SS? A better question is are any of you actually relying on SS for your retirement? Forcing people to be responsible to themselves is a good thing. Fear motivates and inspires. Without that fear you have what we have now. Millions upon millions of people living uninspired government controlled lifes. They have no hope to raise themselves, and their family, out of their current conditions so they don't even try. All Roosevelt did was enslave the american spirit.

However much I paid, I make enough that I didn't miss it. Didn't stop me from doing anything I wanted. Didn't impede my ability to travel.

/shrug

What Varus fails to realize is that without taxes to support a national infrastructure for commerce, comfort and compassion, he really would be pretty dam miserable.