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Are you implying Varrus is not a successful poster?

According to your idea of "the liberal media," they already have, and it's every TV news show ever created ever.

Edit: Oh, and before you put up the strawman of "callers," I'm sure the guest speakers, commentators, and debaters they have representing both sides are every bit as "critical" (and probably moreso) than the callers conservative talk radio shows receive.

Edited, Jun 22nd 2009 11:41am by LockeColeMA

I have to question the notion of "critical callers" on the talk radio shows. I listen to the main ones on a quasi-regular basis and never hear credible opposition calls. But I'm sure Varrus will defend that point to the grave.

As to the greater issue, it's kind of an interesting question. I'll listen to conservative talk radio and read conservative blogs but never listen to Air America (or whatever the local "progressive" station is calling itself these days; although they can't be doing too poorly since they have both an AM & and FM band now) and never read anything on Daily Kos or Mother Jones or even the Huffington Post unless someone else is linking to it or it comes up when I'm looking for something specific.

Best I can figure is that I'll put up with over the top rhetoric and weak logic when it's at least giving me something new. Limbaugh may create laughable arguments but at least they provide me with an alternate point of view. Conversely, someone on Air America telling me that Obama is swell isn't really offering me anything of benefit. It's preaching to the choir. But I get the impression that the conservative choir loves being preached to and having their beliefs reinforced via Limbaugh or Hannity or Beck or whoever patting them on the heads and telling them that they're right.

Well I'm pretty sure it's because they cater to the ignorant. Not to be condescending but it's true. There are WAY more average lazy people in the country than thinking types prefer to live beyond petty gossip.

Let me throw out E. Roosevelt's quote again - it's appropriate.

Small minds talk about people
Average minds talk about events
Great minds discuss ideas.

A talk show that goes anywhere near a topic about a president putting his feet up on the desk or going for ice cream when a woman on the other side of the world and of another nationality is shot (OMG how could he!), is catering to the multitudes of small minds that would prefer to gossip and complain.

The other day flipping through radio stations I stopped long enough on Glen Beck to here a caller come on and declare "Now I'm really miserable after listening to your program today".

So, nothing had changed in this woman's life except she had heard some guys rant on talk radio and 'became' miserable. That's what will bring her back to listen again tomorrow - the opportunity to spur and share her make-believe outrage at an administration, a congress, a president, a liberal, a treehugger, whatever.

Red,



They have always been more liberal. Unless of course you think bashing W at every turn was somehow coming from conservative gop types. Nice apology for how the media has been bowing down to Obama.




Elinda,



Guess this didn't apply to all of you and the media during W's tenure.



Such as spreading ideas like democracy and freedom to oppressed peoples? Didn't our current commander in chief just let everyone know he's not going to "meddle" in any other countries affairs?

It would if we said, say, that W looked like a monkey, or that he choked on a pretzel. However, if we were discussing how his actions in purposefully instigating an unnecessary war with Iraq lead to making the Middle East more unstable and more dangerous for us, then we'd be discussing events. If we moved it out to talking about how the concepts of freedom were usurped by conservative leaders to justify an otherwise unfustifiable war, we'd be talking about ideas.

Dubyah was pretty much unpalatable, no matter what level you examined him on.

Who said who to the what now?I don't think you were alive for those days, to be honest. I dunno... maybe you're in your 60's or something.

Locked,



It worked for the USA just prior to WW2 right?

The scary thing is that Varrus claims to have taught high school level social studies.

It's what all failed athletes teach, Joph.

We used to watch war movies.

Now we're badmouthing Roosevelt's New Deal? The man who single-handedly led the nation out of the Great Depression? (OK it's a stretch, but jeez, he did put a chicken in every pot and all that.)

Think we can all clearly see that a war is not a fix-all for the economy.

At any rate, where were these anti-Hitler riots I'm hearing so much about?