publiusvarus wrote:
How about the Dow this week?
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And who cares what the general populace says.
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How about it? It's been on a general upclimb since March. That it's been a down couple of days doesn't negate that.
People who hold elected office.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
I love how Varrus's arguments have scurried away from the ABC thing and health care to talking about the Dow for the past two days 
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophiel wrote:
I love how Varrus's arguments have scurried away from the ABC thing and health care to talking about the Dow for the past two days
Ambrya,
The dow is hovering around 8500...almost exactly what it was at the beginning of the year. And you have to take into account all the artificial boost it received from the stimulus plan.
Jophed,
This was the last thing I remember saying about ABC. It's not really a big deal to me. We all know ABC is a liberal propaganda machine.
Edited, Jun 17th 2009 3:03pm by publiusvarus
The dow is hovering around 8500...almost exactly what it was at the beginning of the year. And you have to take into account all the artificial boost it received from the stimulus plan.
Jophed,
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Thing is the GOP doesn't need them. One thing W should have done was expel every reporter from CBS, NBC, and ABC from all press meetings. I wonder who the first republican president is that's going to do this. Why cater to news agencies who's sole agenda is to bring you down?
This was the last thing I remember saying about ABC. It's not really a big deal to me. We all know ABC is a liberal propaganda machine.
Edited, Jun 17th 2009 3:03pm by publiusvarus
publiusvarus wrote:
And you have to take into account all the artificial boost it received from the stimulus plan.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
publiusvarus wrote:
And you have to take into account all the artificial boost it received from the stimulus plan.
Boy, I'd hate to think about what it would be like if it weren't for that stimulus. Obama's done a good job of keeping it from being absolutely abysmal, hasn't he?
What a good man.
publiusvarus wrote:
Why cater to news agencies who's sole agenda is to bring you down?
Well then Obama should just disband Fox News.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
Debo,
Well they don't have access to the white house so that's a start.
Edited, Jun 17th 2009 5:02pm by publiusvarus
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Well then Obama should just disband Fox News.
Well they don't have access to the white house so that's a start.
Edited, Jun 17th 2009 5:02pm by publiusvarus
publiusvarus wrote:
Debo,
Well they don't have access to the white house so that's a start.
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Well then Obama should just disband Fox News.
Well they don't have access to the white house so that's a start.
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catwho wrote:
"The people really don't like Obama!"
"Yes they do, here's his approval ratings."
"Yeah but they don't like his policies!"
"Yes they do, here's the breakdown by policy."
"The pollsters are biased!"
Thrust, parry, block.
Sure. But opinion polls largely reflect what the people see in the media with regards to whatever issue/person is being asked about. Within the context of a news agency denying anyone who isn't pro-Obama/pro-Liberal from having a say in a discussion about health care, this would seem to be relevant.
When you have a media which is largely cheerleading for Obama, it's not surprising at all that you'll see high approval ratings. The public doesn't get to see criticism. They don't get to hear dissent. Most people don't watch the political talk shows. They get their news from the networks pretty exclusively. There's not much debate that Obama and the Democrats have gotten ridiculously beneficially biased coverage in that medium.
Edited, Jun 17th 2009 5:11pm by gbaji
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
gbaji wrote:
Sure. But opinion polls largely reflect what the people see in the media with regards to whatever issue/person is being asked about. Within the context of a news agency denying anyone who isn't pro-Obama/pro-Liberal from having a say in a discussion about health care, this would seem to be relevant.
As far as cable news goes, isn't Fox dominating viewership over MSNBC, CNN, and HLN?
I just shuddered involuntarily. Obama is slowly taking over every aspect of this nation, and i forsee the time when we can't even ***** ourselves without the government's permission.
Zaikimaliki the Vile wrote:
I just shuddered involuntarily. Obama is slowly taking over every aspect of this nation, and i forsee the time when we can't even ***** ourselves without the government's permission.
You're far too naive my friend. Democrats will stop at nothing until they control the air we breathe. Liberals won't be satisfied until they are taxing our very souls, which of course they lack.
Zaikimaliki the Vile wrote:
I just shuddered involuntarily. Obama is slowly taking over every aspect of this nation, and i forsee the time when we can't even ***** ourselves without the government's permission.
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Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Allegory wrote:
Zaikimaliki the Vile wrote:
I just shuddered involuntarily. Obama is slowly taking over every aspect of this nation, and i forsee the time when we can't even ***** ourselves without the government's permission.
You're far too naive my friend. Democrats will stop at nothing until they control the air we breathe. Liberals won't be satisfied until they are taxing our very souls, which of course they lack.
My friend sees Obama as a totalitarian, it's very interesting.
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Do "persons" on the left even count as people? Can't we just have them line up single file on a conveyor belt into a furnace? It's not like it would be hard to convince those sheeple to do it, with the right media support.
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ABCNEWS anchor Charlie Gibson
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The Director of Communications at the White House Office of Health Reform is Linda Douglass
Edited, Jun 17th 2009 6:40pm by Terrifyingspeed
Jophiel wrote:
Zaikimaliki the Vile wrote:
I just shuddered involuntarily. Obama is slowly taking over every aspect of this nation, and i forsee the time when we can't even ***** ourselves without the government's permission.
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Congratulations on making a false assumption of my feelings towards him. I'm the kind of person that doesn't respect a person until he/she does something to warrant my respect. Obama has yet to do that. frankly, i don't like him, mainly because he used to hang with people who bombed a national guard installation a few decades ago, and who were unrepentant about it, and his performance as president is just making it worse.
Edited, Jun 17th 2009 11:27pm by Zaikimaliki
Allegory wrote:
gbaji wrote:
Sure. But opinion polls largely reflect what the people see in the media with regards to whatever issue/person is being asked about. Within the context of a news agency denying anyone who isn't pro-Obama/pro-Liberal from having a say in a discussion about health care, this would seem to be relevant.
As far as cable news goes, isn't Fox dominating viewership over MSNBC, CNN, and HLN?
As I explained in the second paragraph of my post, most people don't watch political talk shows. They get their impressions of political events and people by watching the ordinary evening news on one or more of the broadcast networks. Those people are overwhelmingly exposed to "new" (not editorials, but actual news reports) which present opinions and views of the left in a positive light, while ignoring or dismissing those of the right.
Here's a study done on the subject
Here's another reference to the same study with some numbers
It's interesting to note that only a couple outlets even register as "right" of the center. That's pretty amazing really.
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
those links are both the same gbaji.
Do you happen to have a link to the study itself?
nevermind, I'll just go find it.
http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GGLS_enCA314CA314&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=Quarterly+Journal+of+Economics+media+bias
first link
Looks like most politicians and therefore news stations are clustered on the same citations.
http://www.economicprincipals.com/issues/06.01.01.html -> about the study
http://www.brendan-nyhan.com/blog/2005/12/the_problems_wi.html
Edited, Jun 17th 2009 11:40pm by Xsarus
nevermind, I'll just go find it.
http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GGLS_enCA314CA314&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=Quarterly+Journal+of+Economics+media+bias
first link
Looks like most politicians and therefore news stations are clustered on the same citations.
http://www.economicprincipals.com/issues/06.01.01.html -> about the study
http://www.brendan-nyhan.com/blog/2005/12/the_problems_wi.html
Edited, Jun 17th 2009 11:40pm by Xsarus
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Wow, btw ABC owned by Disney. All I can say is personally i've always hoped we'd go to universal healthcare. I'm unemployed and don't have insurance, getting sick, or injured is a huge fear of mine. A doctors visit is an unpayable debt and now you can't go to a doctor without paying before you leave. It's as if they are going to rip the stitches out and throw you in the street bleeding. If you are dying and in an ambulance there is a hospital near here that will not let the ambulance pull in unless you have insurance.
Don't get me wrong I don't like Democrats, I don't share many of the beliefs they stand for. But if this goes through maybe I won't have to be afraid to go to the hospital anymore. Communism, Socialism or not I have to agree with the democrats on the Health bill.
Edited, Jun 18th 2009 5:56am by Soulrunner
Don't get me wrong I don't like Democrats, I don't share many of the beliefs they stand for. But if this goes through maybe I won't have to be afraid to go to the hospital anymore. Communism, Socialism or not I have to agree with the democrats on the Health bill.
Edited, Jun 18th 2009 5:56am by Soulrunner
Soulrunner The Vile wrote:
Wow, btw ABC owned by Disney. All I can say is personally i've always hoped we'd go to universal healthcare. I'm unemployed and don't have insurance, getting sick, or injured is a huge fear of mine. A doctors visit is an unpayable debt and now you can't go to a doctor without paying before you leave. It's as if they are going to rip the stitches out and throw you in the street bleeding. If you are dying and in an ambulance there is a hospital near here that will not let the ambulance pull in unless you have insurance.
I am in the same boat as you. There has been some interesting debates on healthcare lately on XM P.O.T.U.S..
Personally I am a democrat, but I am not in line with any broadcaster moving into the white house. Next thing we will have is controlled programming handled by an office the white house.
Zaikimaliki the Vile wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
Zaikimaliki the Vile wrote:
I just shuddered involuntarily. Obama is slowly taking over every aspect of this nation, and i forsee the time when we can't even ***** ourselves without the government's permission.
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Posting from Yokosuka, Japan
Congratulations on making a false assumption of my feelings towards him. I'm the kind of person that doesn't respect a person until he/she does something to warrant my respect. Obama has yet to do that. frankly, i don't like him, mainly because he used to hang with people who bombed a national guard installation a few decades ago, and who were unrepentant about it, and his performance as president is just making it worse.
I think the salient point that you ignored here is that Obama is not the president of Japan.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
The SimpleMajority of Doom wrote:
Personally I am a democrat, but I am not in line with any broadcaster moving into the white house. Next thing we will have is controlled programming handled by an office the white house.
Really? You still think this is a permanent arrangement? It's a one-night special report. This has nothing at all to do with the White House taking over the media, or even ABC news.
If Charlie Gibson were to do a special report on nutrition labels from inside a McDonald's, would that make you think that Mickey Dees just bought ABC news?
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
Allegory,
Sad thing is you think you're being funny but you're actually dead on balls accurate.
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Democrats will stop at nothing until they control the air we breathe.
Sad thing is you think you're being funny but you're actually dead on balls accurate.
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