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#1 Jun 16 2009 at 11:29 PM Rating: Good
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ABC TURNS PROGRAMMING OVER TO OBAMA; NEWS TO BE ANCHORED FROM INSIDE WHITE HOUSE
Tue Jun 16 2009 08:45:10 ET

On the night of June 24, the media and government become one, when ABC turns its programming over to President Obama and White House officials to push government run health care -- a move that has ignited an ethical firestorm!

Highlights on the agenda:

ABCNEWS anchor Charlie Gibson will deliver WORLD NEWS from the Blue Room of the White House.

The network plans a primetime special -- 'Prescription for America' -- originating from the East Room, exclude opposing voices on the debate.

The Director of Communications at the White House Office of Health Reform is Linda Douglass, who worked as a reporter for ABC News from 1998-2006.

Late Monday night, Republican National Committee Chief of Staff Ken McKay fired off a complaint to the head of ABCNEWS:

Dear Mr. Westin:

As the national debate on health care reform intensifies, I am deeply concerned and disappointed with ABC's astonishing decision to exclude opposing voices on this critical issue on June 24, 2009. Next Wednesday, ABC News will air a primetime health care reform "town hall" at the White House with President Barack Obama. In addition, according to an ABC News report, GOOD MORNING AMERICA, WORLD NEWS, NIGHTLINE and ABC's web news "will all feature special programming on the president's health care agenda." This does not include the promotion, over the next 9 days, the president's health care agenda will receive on ABC News programming.

Today, the Republican National Committee requested an opportunity to add our Party's views to those of the President's to ensure that all sides of the health care reform debate are presented. Our request was rejected. I believe that the President should have the ability to speak directly to the America people. However, I find it outrageous that ABC would prohibit our Party's opposing thoughts and ideas from this national debate, which affects millions of ABC viewers.

In the absence of opposition, I am concerned this event will become a glorified infomercial to promote the Democrat agenda. If that is the case, this primetime infomercial should be paid for out of the DNC coffers. President Obama does not hold a monopoly on health care reform ideas or on free airtime. The President has stated time and time again that he wants a bipartisan debate. Therefore, the Republican Party should be included in this primetime event, or the DNC should pay for your airtime.

Respectfully,
Ken McKay
Republican National Committee
Chief of Staff

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ABCNEWS Senior Vice President Kerry Smith on Tuesday responded to the RNC complaint, saying it contained 'false premises':

"ABCNEWS prides itself on covering all sides of important issues and asking direct questions of all newsmakers -- of all political persuasions -- even when others have taken a more partisan approach and even in the face of criticism from extremes on both ends of the political spectrum. ABCNEWS is looking for the most thoughtful and diverse voices on this issue.

"ABCNEWS alone will select those who will be in the audience asking questions of the president. Like any programs we broadcast, ABC News will have complete editorial control. To suggest otherwise is quite unfair to both our journalists and our audience."


Source: http://drudgereport.com/flashaot.htm

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#2 Jun 17 2009 at 2:43 AM Rating: Decent
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#3 Jun 17 2009 at 4:31 AM Rating: Excellent
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Discuss?

Ok, ABC is holding one news special thingie in a room in the White House while not allowing the RNC to dictate the content of their programming and, on the basis of this, Drudge is screaming that ABC is turning over its programming to Obama.

Am I supposed to take this seriously?
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#4 Jun 17 2009 at 5:04 AM Rating: Good
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I think it's fine, but I do agree that it'll probably be all about the government health care system... which is kind of the point. It isn't promoted the Democrats specifically, do I see no reason for sensationalist claims like the DNC should pay for it, or that ABC is taken over by the White House. As for the Drudge report, they have gotten one thing of note, which was the Lewinsky scandal. Other than that they've been like a joke "Alien Abduction!!" magazine in their content for most of the time.
#5 Jun 17 2009 at 5:14 AM Rating: Default
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ABC is holding one news special thingie in a room in the White House while not allowing the RNC to dictate the content of their programming and, on the basis of this, Drudge is screaming that ABC is turning over its programming to Obama.


Meh, doesnt really concern me, was expected.

But just as an exercise, change the names of the players to:

Obama > Bush ------Gibson > Limbaugh------ Douglass > Hannity

Now does it scare ya ?


Obama administration move would be much more appropriate in his second term
(unless Biden or other possible candidate given the spotlight)

"Not ALLOWING the RNC to DICTATE...." kinda shows your point of view as they are not trying to dictate, just be involved.

#6 Jun 17 2009 at 5:18 AM Rating: Default
Is this really news? Everyone knows the big 3 have been in the tank for the Dems for what 20yrs now?

It is funny that the same Dems who screamed about openness and transparency don't seem to mind excluding the GOP from this discussion.

#7 Jun 17 2009 at 5:20 AM Rating: Default
Terrifying,

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Obama > Bush


What has Obama done? Besides spending american taxpayers money like a drunken sailor.





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Gibson > Limbaugh------ Douglass > Hannity


Who's Gibson and Douglass?



Edited, Jun 17th 2009 9:23am by publiusvarus
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Is this really news? Everyone knows the big 3 have been in the tank for the Dems for what 20yrs now?
Maybe we should have a law! A law that says if the Big 3 give time to the White House for some issue, they need to give equal time to the RNC... Smiley: um
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"Not ALLOWING the RNC to DICTATE...." kinda shows your point of view as they are not trying to dictate, just be involved.
No, they're throwing a fuss and whining about how ABC is controlled by Obama because ABC didn't give the RNC what they wanted. They "requested" an opportunity to be on the prgram and ABC said "Nope, we're cool". Now the RNC is crying about how either they need to be allowed on the program or else the DNC should have to pay for it, moving from "requests" to threats.

Yeah, "allow" & "dictate" seem to fit well enough here.
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#11 Jun 17 2009 at 5:30 AM Rating: Decent
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Jophed,

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Maybe we should have a law! A law that says if the Big 3 give time to the White House for some issue, they need to give equal time to the RNC...


Thing is the GOP doesn't need them.


Then what does it matter? If the GOP doesn't need ABC to put their point across, why complain about it?

I personally am not convinced universal health care is the way to go... it seems too much like it will go the way of Bush's privatization of social security, which occupied a lot of his time and turned out to be nothing. Granted the Democrats have a much stronger grip, and there is a large demand for affordable health coverage as compared to stripping social security benefits from those who worked for years to get them, but I fear it might be the same end: lots of effort for nothing.
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If the GOP doesn't need ABC to put their point across, why complain about it?
Because the GOP is getting beat down on the issues so what they have left is a constant cry of martyrdom. Rather than convincing people directly that their ideas on health care are wise and what America wants, they say "The White House and Liberal Media are so scared of our ideas that they won't even let us share them! Doesn't that sound like our ideas must be really good??"

It was the same thing with "We think our economic ideas are so great that we'd break away from the United States!" and "The DHS is sooooo scared of our ideas that they're gonna call us all terrorists!"
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Yeah, but most Americans love The Little Mermaid. Can you blame him, Varrus?
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We warned you people before the election but you were all about change.
Warned who? The people keeping Obama's approval ratings in the 60's? The folks giving Congress higher approval ratings than they've seen in 5+ years?
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#17 Jun 17 2009 at 6:32 AM Rating: Default
Jophed,

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The people keeping Obama's approval ratings in the 60's


But his policies are receive much worse approval ratings. By far most americans were against the GM takeover.

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But his policies are receive much worse approval ratings. By far most americans were against the GM takeover
All in all, people are pretty happy with how he's approached the various aspects:
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Now I would like to read you a list of several issues related to domestic and foreign policy.  
After I read each one, please tell me whether you approve or disapprove of the way Barack Obama  
is handling the issue. . . ." 
  
  	  	    Approve 	  Disapprove 	Unsure 	  	  
  	  	      % 	      % 	  % 	  	  
"Foreign affairs" 
6/4-7/09	      62 	      32 	  6 	  	  
  
"Energy policy" 
6/4-7/09	      61 	      27 	  12 	  	  
  
"Terrorism" 
6/4-7/09	      60 	      33 	  7 	  	  
  
"The economy" 
6/4-7/09 	      60 	      37 	  4 	  	  
  
"Health care" 
6/4-7/09	      55 	      36 	  9 	  	  
  
"Social issues like abortion and same-sex marriage" 
6/4-7/09	      45 	      42 	  12
Ironically, I think a sizable portion of the 45% for social issues comes from people who were expecting an immediate overturn of DOMA and the like. Even if people didn't like the GM decision, they still have solid support for his economic leadership.

Edited, Jun 17th 2009 9:43am by Jophiel
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#19 Jun 17 2009 at 7:16 AM Rating: Excellent
Abc = Disney. Liberal?

Really?

Obama = ratings. It doesn't get simpler than that.
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#20REDACTED, Posted: Jun 17 2009 at 7:26 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Jophed,
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And it shows by how the market is responding (end sarcasm).
Up 300pts since he took office and over 2000 points since its low spot only a couple months ago?

Guess you're making my points for me. Thanks!

Edited, Jun 17th 2009 10:47am by Jophiel
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#22 Jun 17 2009 at 8:13 AM Rating: Default
Jophed,

Unemployment over 10%. Over 2 million jobs lost this year alone. New home construction dramatically down this year compared to last. Increased deficit spending.

Now look at a graph for the dow from 2004-2009. Pay particular attention to exactly when the dow tanked.


http://www.advfn.com/p.php?pid=staticchart&s=DJI%5EI%5CINDU&p=8&t=37


and no the dow is nowhere near what it was this time last year when all you liberals were screaming the word recession every other second. What a surprise you're not using the same talking points now when the market is much much worse than it was at this time last year.

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Unemployment over 10%. Over 2 million jobs lost this year alone. New home construction dramatically down this year compared to last. Increased deficit spending.
Yup. That's a recession for ya.
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and no the dow is nowhere near what it was this time last year when all you liberals were screaming the word recession every other second.
And we were right! Smiley: smile

At this point last year, the Dow was on a downwards trend. Currently, its fall has been reversed and it's trending upwards. Huzzah!

In any event, at the risk of getting slightly back on track, it doesn't matter what you think of Obama and the economy. The public at large has been generally positive about Obama's handling of the economy as represented both in his general polling and in specific issue-oriented questions. The GOP hasn't been able to significantly dent this through promotion of their issues. So, rather than promoting their ideas based on the ideas' merits, they've taken the route of saying "Our ideas must be really important" by climbing up on their cross and claiming that the Democrats put them there.

Edited, Jun 17th 2009 11:41am by Jophiel
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#24 Jun 17 2009 at 8:51 AM Rating: Excellent
Watching the blocks and parries of a Joph vs Varus argument is better than watching an actual fencing match.

Smiley: popcorn

"The people really don't like Obama!"

"Yes they do, here's his approval ratings."

"Yeah but they don't like his policies!"

"Yes they do, here's the breakdown by policy."

"The pollsters are biased!"

Thrust, parry, block.
#25 Jun 17 2009 at 10:45 AM Rating: Default
Jophed,

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At this point last year, the Dow was on a downwards trend. Currently, its fall has been reversed and it's trending upwards. Huzzah!


Did you even look at the graph?

How about the Dow this week?

http://www.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=INDEXDJX:DJI

You know simply making up stuff up doesn't make it accurate right?



And who cares what the general populace says. Watch what they're doing if you want a real indicator on what they think of the economy.

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Jophed,

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At this point last year, the Dow was on a downwards trend. Currently, its fall has been reversed and it's trending upwards. Huzzah!


Did you even look at the graph?

How about the Dow this week?

http://www.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=INDEXDJX:DJI

You know simply making up stuff up doesn't make it accurate right?



Who cares what the Dow is doing this week? The chairman of the Fed could fart and it would cause the Dow to dip for a week. A week is in no way an indicator of long-term trends.


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And who cares what the general populace says. Watch what they're doing if you want a real indicator on what they think of the economy.


Yes, let's do that. Let's click on the little 6 month button. Oh wow, lookit that! It's up since January. Hmm, now I wonder what happened in January that might influence consumer confidence.



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