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#1 Jun 16 2009 at 3:47 PM Rating: Excellent
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Isn't it the worst? I mean, when someone dies unexpectedly, that's awful. I've been there, done that, and I guess I prefer the slow ease-your-way-into the death approach (not that I'd wish it on another person, mind, but you get what I'm saying, right?). It's not as though I haven't known for *quite* some time that my grandmother is ill. It's just that right now, in this moment, when there's nothing that I can do, when I can't call her because she's not awake and likely never will be again and when I couldn't get to her in time for that one last visit that the helpless impotence and the anxious, heightened awareness of everything is just exhausting.

Do you ever just wish it would be over with? That the phone would ring and you could cry and just be done with it? Or maybe not...maybe she'll pull through unexpectedly one more time and we'll all nod and smile tight-lipped because we all remember that for a moment we felt that way.

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#2 Jun 16 2009 at 3:49 PM Rating: Decent
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#3 Jun 16 2009 at 3:52 PM Rating: Excellent
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You'd pay for that? You really do have too much money.

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#4 Jun 16 2009 at 3:53 PM Rating: Good
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I'm sorry for your impending loss, Nexa. Our family went through that for a month when my grandfather passed away, and for nearly a week when my stepfather died. You have my sympathies.
#5 Jun 16 2009 at 3:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm sorry for your impending loss, Nexa. Our family went through that for a month when my grandfather passed away, and for nearly a week when my stepfather died. You have my sympathies.


Thank you. To some extent I think I've already had my "grieving" period or whatever and I just want her to be at peace. She hasn't been the person I've missed for years now. Still, she represents, to some extent, all I'll ever know about my father since his father is gone. I had kind of hoped to get a chance to ask her some things about him if I'd ever had the nerve. C'est la vie.

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#6 Jun 16 2009 at 4:11 PM Rating: Good
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I opted out of what turned out to be the "one last visit" to my grandfather last year. Mostly because of the cost of flying to Colorado, but also, while I knew he was quite sick, I wasn't acutely aware that he only had a couple months left.

But probably, subconsciously, I didn't want to see him in that state. A selfish reason of course, but he was such a vibrant guy throughout most of his elderly years (which were all I knew him during, naturally) and towards the end, with the medication and nodding off mid-conversation, he was mentally a shell of what he had been just 5 years prior - I didn't want to remember him like that.

But then you just have to remember that sliver of a fraction of life at the end that you weren't there for, or could offer no comfort during, is just that - a mere sliver.

#7 Jun 16 2009 at 4:18 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm sorry. :(
#8 Jun 16 2009 at 4:28 PM Rating: Excellent
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Sorry to hear that Nexa. I've been there before and no matter how much you prepare for it, it still hits you in the gut. Smiley: frown

Oddly enough talking here in the Asylum, I got that phone call about my grandfather about 5 minutes after Joph and his munchkin left, after we had dinner at the hotel I was staying in for my grandfathers funeral (Both my grandfathers died within a week of each other so it was a double whammy). I specifically remember walking them out to the car when my phone rang. It was my mom and I asked her if I could call back in a minute as I wanted to see them off. After they left, I knew what the phone call was going to be, so stopped at the gas station nearby to get a full pack of cigarettes, started walking towards the hotel bar knowing I would be drunk soon, and called my mom to officially hear the news. I'm not ashamed to admit I bawled like a baby over many glasses of red wine that night. He was my favorite grandparent.

Sending hugs to you hon.
#9 Jun 16 2009 at 5:38 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah, there's no getting ready for it, and the waiting wears at you. Doubly so because you know you wouldn't want to drag on that way.

Think I'll put out a hit on myself when I hit 80.

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#10 Jun 16 2009 at 5:44 PM Rating: Good
I remember going through something similar when my Gran had breast cancer when I was young . We were all told it was, sadly, something that would get worse in time and eventually kill her, and at some point I stopped thinking that I wanted her to get better, because I accepted it was not going to happen, and that I'd rather she died quickly .

Yeas, I have wished it could be over with - not just in that situation, but in many since - because I'd rather she was at peace than in pain . The same with the ex that keeps trying to kill himself . It sound cruel, but every try, I hope he succeeds because he plainly can't cope with life, I plainly can't help, and he'd clearly be happier that way .

I don't think it says anything bad about you that you think that way . Only you can know how much your gran is suffering, and if it would be easier for her another way .
#11 Jun 17 2009 at 3:49 AM Rating: Good
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Sorry to hear it, Nexa. I went through this precise thing with my Grams around Christmas. I was relieved when the call came. Poor lady, held on waaay too long. :(

Best to you and your family, Nexa.
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#12 Jun 17 2009 at 4:06 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm more or less in the same situation with my grandfather. He's um...90ish, and in the late stages of Alzheimers. It's not pretty. I hadn't seen him for the better part of a decade and now that it's getting close to the end my Father flies everyone out to see him periodically. He doesn't really know who I am anymore. It's a sad state of affairs. He was one of the Tuskegee Airmen. There's a signed portrait of him in the "Air and Space" museum in DC. Massive hard ***. One of the few people I found intimidating as a kid and now... Well, the whole situation is just unpleasant.
#13 Jun 17 2009 at 4:14 AM Rating: Excellent
If any of you people with terminally old folks hanging around want to PM me your numbers, I'd be happy to call you up and tell you they're dead.
#14 Jun 17 2009 at 7:19 AM Rating: Excellent
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If any of you people with terminally old folks hanging around want to PM me your numbers, I'd be happy to call you up and tell you they're dead.


Will you do it like a singing telegram?

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#15 Jun 17 2009 at 7:58 AM Rating: Good
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*hugs* for what you're going through, Nexa. Smiley: flowers

Saw the title and thought you meant you were waiting for "the phone call" to tell you you got hired somewhere.
#16 Jun 17 2009 at 9:03 AM Rating: Excellent
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Nexa wrote:
Do you ever just wish it would be over with?


Very very very much so. That wait is horrendous...no matter how short or long the wait is.
#17 Jun 17 2009 at 9:12 AM Rating: Decent
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Waiting is the worst part. It plays your emotions like an orchestra.
#18 Jun 17 2009 at 9:25 AM Rating: Good
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Sorry to hear this Nexa Smiley: frown

Its not fun waiting and despite preparation it still hurts just as much as if its a sudden death. For myself the only advantage of a slower death for one Grandmother was having the time and opportunity to say goodbye properly. To say all I wished to say, to spend lazy afternoons sipping wine on the veranda and simply listen and hold hands and enjoy each others company.

And to your question? Yes, at one stage I wished it would be over with but that was only when she spent the last week or so in hospital with no quality of life whatsoever and barely concious.

Its focused my mind on my mother. I'm much more careful about spending time with her. For most of us, is it only when Grandparents die that we truly appreciate what death is?
#19 Jun 17 2009 at 9:34 AM Rating: Excellent
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Thanks folks. 9:20 last night, sleeping :) RIP.

Nexa

Edited, Jun 17th 2009 2:07pm by Nexa
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#20 Jun 17 2009 at 9:38 AM Rating: Good
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Good luck Nexa, how relieving to hear it was a peaceful passing. Your family will be in my thoughts today.
#21 Jun 17 2009 at 9:41 AM Rating: Excellent
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Thanks folks. 9:20 last night, sleeping :)

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I'll say it for you: whew.

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#22 Jun 17 2009 at 11:17 AM Rating: Decent
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I opted out of what turned out to be the "one last visit" to my grandfather last year. Mostly because of the cost of flying to Colorado, but also, while I knew he was quite sick, I wasn't acutely aware that he only had a couple months left.

But probably, subconsciously, I didn't want to see him in that state. A selfish reason of course, but he was such a vibrant guy throughout most of his elderly years (which were all I knew him during, naturally) and towards the end, with the medication and nodding off mid-conversation, he was mentally a shell of what he had been just 5 years prior - I didn't want to remember him like that.

But then you just have to remember that sliver of a fraction of life at the end that you weren't there for, or could offer no comfort during, is just that - a mere sliver.


The same thing happened with my great aunt a few months ago. I, however, went to her hospital bed. She may or may not have been conscious. She would grab onto your hand and move it some, but I didn't see any life in her eyes. She was retrained and had a breathing and nutrient tube in her throat, which the doctor finally persuaded my father to replace with a direct trachea and esophagus tube for "comfort"

I don't honestly believe that I offered any comfort at all in that situation, because I don't really believe that she was cognizant.

My mother went there every day for a week, and my father read wtfever the passage is with lord is my shepard over the aunt before she died. I personally think it was ******* pointless, and I sort of wish I hadn't gone, because if the person isn't conscious then the only one you are comforting by going to the bed is yourself.

I try, rather, to remember last thanksgiving; she wasn't vibrant and she was kind of senile, but she was loving.
#23 Jun 17 2009 at 11:31 AM Rating: Excellent
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Funerals and the like are always about comforting the living. I wouldn't criticize too harshly for that.

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#24 Jun 17 2009 at 11:57 AM Rating: Excellent
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I try, rather, to remember last thanksgiving; she wasn't vibrant and she was kind of senile, but she was loving.


That's sort of where I've been at for a while. I spent nearly every weekend of my childhood at my grandmother's house, along with my sister and two of my cousins. We went over after school on Fridays and didn't go home until Sunday night, nearly every week. My grandmother played with us all weekend, helping us write family "newspapers", taking over the dining room with absurdly huge domino designs that would take 8 hours to make, playing with barbies or legos or changing the living room into a pirate ship with furniture or appliance boxes she'd pick up from work. We went berry picking in the summer and made enormous snow forts in the winter. My grandmother is the one who purchased nearly all my school clothing. Even in my teenage years, I'd go stay at her house about once a month so that we could stay up until 4am watching Elvira host B-grade horror movies on USA UP All Night, haha. I think I'm relatively certain that I've watched every bad horror movie about radio active animals with her. However, after my grandfather died, she became increasingly bitter and angry and it got worse after my father passed and senility set in. She was never happy anymore and would accuse us of never calling or visiting even if we'd just been there. I hadn't seen her since before Christmas because she wouldn't let me visit and maybe that's for the best...I'd rather remember her the way she was.

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#25 Jun 17 2009 at 11:59 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm relieved for you that the waiting is over.

As others have relayed, I went through what sounds like a similar situation when my grandma died.

I'd been living in Maine for only a couple years, my family was young - needy, finances were tight, and granny was sick in Wisconsin. I really didn't even make a heart-felt attempt to get back to see her. My mom (her daughter) had died only a couple years earlier. My grandma dwelled on my moms death something terrible. She was in good hands - lots of loved ones tending to her. I didn't want to deal with her or sickness or death. It was painful. Anyway, when grandma did finally die I frantically but unsuccessfully tried to find an affordable flight back to the midwest, and was secretly relieved that I 'just wasn't able to pull it off'.

Like Sam said, funerals are for the living. My grandma knew I loved her and cared about her. So did yours.
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#26 Jun 17 2009 at 12:20 PM Rating: Decent
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Funerals and the like are always about comforting the living. I wouldn't criticize too harshly for that.


Okay I didn't tell the whole story.

She was in the hospital for a week prior to contracting some weird *** disease.. pnumounia I think but they never figured it out.

But she was in there to begin with for a fall. She was entirely conscious for a week before contracting the sickness and my father didn't tell us.

I don't criticize my mother for going to talk to an unconscious person to comfort herself, but I was extremely pissed at my father for keeping us in the dark and then only going through the motions of visitations after he could have been going there with me, while she was awake.
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