Jophiel wrote:
bsphil wrote:
Yodabunny wrote:
Socialized health care makes for healthier, happier people at a much cheaper cost. Why anyone would be against that is beyond me.
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Yodabunny wrote:
LockeColeMA wrote:
Plus now I can pick my own dentist instead of one of the SIX offered in the plan, and don't need to wait as long.
Your plan tells you who you can see? Really? Wow, that's insane.
Oh, and my plan is $5.76 a week and covers 100% of my prescriptions (including dispensing fee) and $1500/person/year dental. Along with things like orthopedics, massage, chiropractor etc.
Edited, Jun 16th 2009 2:37pm by Yodabunny
Dental plans here only extend to the dentists who accept them. In FL, there are 6 (only 2 within an hour drive) who accept the plan we were offered. If you go to any other dentist they will not accept your insurance and you pay out of pocket.
I forget how much the plan was weekly, but I believe it was around $280 a year. Which, when I looked up prices, would cover 2 checkups and cleanings a year, along with a set of fillings. Also, the plan offered only covered silver fillings, which are outdated and not used much any more. You would need to pay for any other fillings. It was a terrible plan; at least I was told that right from the start, so I made sure not to opt into it.
The medical plan was pretty similar to the Blue Cross BLue Shield plan I was already on (in price), but a bit more limited in coverage (again, only certain hospitals would accept it), so I just stuck with BCBS. Luckily, as a young man with no previous conditions and in good health my payments are quite low for now, but I know they increase exponentially with age, especially since my family has a history of high blood pressure. When I hit 30 (or if BCBS payments keep increasing) I'll reevaluate what I have. For now it hasn't been an issue.
Life insurance and eyecare plans were pretty good here, though!
publiusvarus wrote:
Spoken like a true idiot. What do you think your taxes go towards?
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
publiusvarus wrote:
Yoda,
Spoken like a true idiot. What do you think your taxes go towards?
Health insurance should be treated exact same way as life and p&c. Do you think the govn should subsidize an individuals car insurance because the have 4 at fault accidents in a year and can now no longer afford the insurance? How is this any different than most of you fat ****s eating fast food every night and then expecting the govn to pay for your inflated health costs when you get type 2 diabetes or other related health issues?
The simple fact is most you don't mind stealing from "the rich" to pay for your laziness.
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In Canada we have Healthcare provided "free" by the government.
Spoken like a true idiot. What do you think your taxes go towards?
Health insurance should be treated exact same way as life and p&c. Do you think the govn should subsidize an individuals car insurance because the have 4 at fault accidents in a year and can now no longer afford the insurance? How is this any different than most of you fat ****s eating fast food every night and then expecting the govn to pay for your inflated health costs when you get type 2 diabetes or other related health issues?
The simple fact is most you don't mind stealing from "the rich" to pay for your laziness.
Hence the "" marks, idiot.
Simple. The government doesn't subsidize car insurance because driving is not a necessity of life. I'm not willing to pay for you to drive. The government does provide health care because we are willing to pitch in to make sure no one has to worry about whether or not they can afford to take their daughter to the hospital.
If you were walking down the street and you saw someone bleeding on the side of the road would you pay to save them? I would. So would everyone I know. This is just an extension of that.
a collection of people agreeing to pool their resources to pay for health care has nothing in common with robbing a bank.
Sure you don't agree, fortunately it seems that most people do.
Sure you don't agree, fortunately it seems that most people do.
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publiusvarus wrote:
Yoda,
A more apt analogy would be if you were walking down the street and you saw someone bleeding would you rob a bank to pay to save them?
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If you were walking down the street and you saw someone bleeding on the side of the road would you pay to save them?
A more apt analogy would be if you were walking down the street and you saw someone bleeding would you rob a bank to pay to save them?
If you saw someone robbing a bank, would you bleed all over them?
I think that makes more sense.
"I started out with nothin' and I still got most of it left" - Seasick Steve
publiusvarus wrote:
A more apt analogy would be if you were walking down the street and you saw someone bleeding would you rob a bank to pay to save them?
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Socialist healthcare rocks!
It gives fat, unhealthy people a place to go to to keep them off the streets, in the warm and out of trouble!
But, enough talk about the staff. Sometimes we even help sick people get well enbough to go out and start consuming all over again!
It gives fat, unhealthy people a place to go to to keep them off the streets, in the warm and out of trouble!
But, enough talk about the staff. Sometimes we even help sick people get well enbough to go out and start consuming all over again!
"If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders". Carlin.
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