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#1 Jun 03 2009 at 1:55 AM Rating: Good
So,

A couple of days ago I went to Moe's, a quasi-Tex-mex place that offers really big food at decent prices. I picked out my Joey bag of doughnuts, and was moving down the line, to where I pay when...

I saw it.

A gas canister, with half of the top cut off, and a sign with tips taped upon it.

I saw it, but couldn't rationalize tossing money into something where all the people did was prepare my food as I moved down a line. I felt a little guilty afterwards, though.

I tend to never put any money into these tip jars, if only because I cannot rationalize giving money to people who did next to nothing, whether it be at a solely take out place or even at a Dillard's I once went to in East Tennessee.

Anyone here ever put money into these tip jars, and if so, why?
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#2 Jun 03 2009 at 2:24 AM Rating: Decent
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We don't tip in Australia, unless you're a fancy bartender or a really good prostitute.
#3 Jun 03 2009 at 3:21 AM Rating: Good
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I always tip. But that might be because I'm trying(not so successfully at the momentSmiley: frown) to pursue a career as a chef and because my mom is a cab driver.

I always tip servers, cooks, cabbies, delivery people, workers at coffee shops, car wash attendants, etc.

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I tend to never put any money into these tip jars, if only because I cannot rationalize giving money to people who did next to nothing, whether it be at a solely take out place or even at a Dillard's I once went to in East Tennessee


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If you're talking about a place that has ready to eat sandwiches in plastic wrap, someone still works to make that. If you're talking about a place where you place your order, it's made for you, and then you get it yourself from the counter, then you really should tip.

What do you have against us food preparers?


if you're talking about something else, disregard the above statement

Edited, Jun 3rd 2009 7:21am by Driftwood
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#4 Jun 03 2009 at 4:30 AM Rating: Excellent
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I don't tip into tip jars unless I'm feeling exceptionally generous. Pouring me a cup of coffee, putting some ice cream on a cone or grabbing a fast food burger off the grill is not a tip-worthy action. You'd be hard pressed to make pouring coffee so exceptional that I think it's worth in excess of the posted amount.
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#5 Jun 03 2009 at 4:32 AM Rating: Excellent
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I generally toss some change in the jar. If it's a place I go every day, like my coffee/tea place at work, I'll supplement that with the occasional dollar bill.

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#6 Jun 03 2009 at 4:42 AM Rating: Good
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I do if I am feeling generous or frequent the place on a regular basis.
I do it because I work for tips when I give my tours, and have delivered pizza.
#7 Jun 03 2009 at 6:07 AM Rating: Good
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Tip jars are an excuse for the McWorker to feel like they're a McWaiter. I never put money into those stupid jars. If I have change that I don't want to carry around, I usually throw it in the charity box.
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#8 Jun 03 2009 at 6:11 AM Rating: Excellent
I only tip at places where I know they are making "tip hourly wage" - like $3 an hour or whatever, and not actual minimum wage or higher. People making tip wage get generous tips, since it makes up the bulk of their paycheck.

My fiance says that tipping is an archaic system that smacks of classism and should be done away with entirely; the cost of food as it is listed should be based of paying the workers a real living wage, not "tip hourly wage" or whatever.
#9 Jun 03 2009 at 6:19 AM Rating: Decent
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I always tip. If there is a jar I will at least toss some change or a buck (especially at Chipotle mmmmm)

Some places pay waitress wages even though they are fast food, like Sonic.
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I only tip at places where I know they are making "tip hourly wage" - like $3 an hour or whatever, and not actual minimum wage or higher. People making tip wage get generous tips, since it makes up the bulk of their paycheck.
I'm pretty sure this isn't the case at Starbucks, Chipotle or TCBY. They're making state minimum at least.

I wouldn't think I need to tip the cashier at Walgreens or Safeway or the guy running the register at the gas station and they're performing essentially the same service.
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#11 Jun 03 2009 at 7:41 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm getting to the point where I'm going to make my girl friend pay for all of our meals. I'll reimburse as soon as we leave the restaurant, but I can't pay as I tip too much.
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#12 Jun 03 2009 at 7:41 AM Rating: Good
I only tip if I feel that someone has actually put the effort into making my dining experience a good one . I think in the UK its different, because there is a minimum wage, unlike the US where I believe theres no minimum wage (I may be wrong) so I don't really feel obliged to . And I don't usually tip much - just a handful of loose change usually .

I do tend to tip my hairdresser though, on the rare occasions I get a proper haircut (I tend to just let my hair grow most of the time).
#13 Jun 03 2009 at 7:48 AM Rating: Excellent
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I usually tip pretty good, not too much but I'm not a cheapass. However I hate the tip jars. I only tip those once in a while with loose change and that only if I frequent the place. I just find them annoying.
#14 Jun 03 2009 at 7:48 AM Rating: Good
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Unless I know you're making tip wages, I'm not tipping you unless you do something to really impress me.
#15 Jun 03 2009 at 8:07 AM Rating: Good
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It depends on the establishment. If it's a local place that I am a regular, I always leave the coin change in the tip jar or a dollar. I have a reputation now as a generous tipper so the workers bend over backwards to service me (Smiley: laugh I just re-read that).

For regular tips, I am always generous on tipping. Again, so workers remember me and I get above the board service on my visit and special requests that I have are always taken care of without extra charges.

For delivery guys, I always tip. Delivery guys from the local pizza shop and Chinese restaurants are always happy when they see my address because they know that they're walking away with at least $5.
#16 Jun 03 2009 at 8:19 AM Rating: Good
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Like Catwho I only tip when in environments where it is factored into their pay, usually sit down restaurants. If I'm grabbing a bite to eat at a fast food place on par with McDonald's or Corner Bakery I don't tip. A tip jar in in that situation is simply an opportunity to get extra money from suckers; they sell you the illusion of generosity for however much you're willing to give them.

Tipping is mostly a burdensome and annoying system for both servers and customers. It belongs in situations where exceptional service is really important. If you're paying $100 or more for your dinner, then tipping has a place in that environment. However, tipping has no place in a restaurant like Chili's.

Edited, Jun 3rd 2009 11:20am by Allegory
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unlike the US where I believe theres no minimum wage (I may be wrong)
There's a minimum wage in the United States, however some occupations are considered to be supplemented by tips (waiters, bartenders, food delivery, etc) and so the minimum wage is lower than standard. Those people rely on tips to match what they'd be earning in another occupation.

Soft yogurt & burger joint cashiers are making standard state minimum wage (at least). They're not relying on my spare change to make up the difference. There's no more reason to tip them than there is to tip any other cashier except that someone got cute and slapped a "TIPS!" sign on an empty jar and placed it next to the register.

Edited, Jun 3rd 2009 11:22am by Jophiel
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#18 Jun 03 2009 at 8:24 AM Rating: Excellent
I tip people who could potentially be left alone with my food long enough to **** in it.
#19 Jun 03 2009 at 8:25 AM Rating: Decent
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Most states have reduced minimum wage for waitstaff. So, they are depending on tips to make a living. I tip when I sit down and am getting waited on.

Most counters now come with a tip jar. Counter help is NOT being paid at the reduced wages that wait people are (federal minimum wage for tipped employees is $2.13/hour).

So, no I don't tip them. There is one exception of my local bagel shop that I used to stop in almost daily. I tipped the girls there simply because I got to know them and them me and I wanted to and it made me feel good. Smiley: smile

Kinda interestingly, Starbucks just won a lawsuit about tipping. I guess the baristas are required to share their tips with their supervisors. They tried to change that policy, but without success...further justification for not tipping at Starbucks. Smiley: wink
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#20 Jun 03 2009 at 8:29 AM Rating: Good
Not only do I not tip, I steal from the cash register when they're not looking.
#21 Jun 03 2009 at 8:34 AM Rating: Decent
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Allegory wrote:
Tipping is mostly a burdensome and annoying system for both servers and customers. It belongs in situations where exceptional service is really important. If you're paying $100 or more for your dinner, then tipping has a place in that environment. However, tipping has no place in a restaurant like Chili's.

Edited, Jun 3rd 2009 11:20am by Allegory
You're totally looking at this from the wrong perspective. Tipping allows the customer to set the price of their meal, with the menu prices being the lowest charge. See, if everyone stops tipping waiters/bartenders/etc, then people stop working those jobs, unless the restaurants pay substantially more (and I do mean substantially as putting up with the **** most waitstaff do on a daily basis is ridiculous. People are crazy when it comes to their food). If they bump wages up significantly, then the price of food jumps and then you have a set rate, that you have no control over.
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#22 Jun 03 2009 at 8:34 AM Rating: Decent
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I never tip jars because I feel like a douchebag holding up a line while I try to count out change or something. I always thought that most places like subway, starbucks receive the min wage anyway. Minimum wage should be a lot higher than what it is, but tipping the guy who makes my sandwich is unfair to places that don't take tips and such.

Restaurants are a different matter. I'll normally do 30% or 3$, whichever is more.
#23 Jun 03 2009 at 8:37 AM Rating: Excellent
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Uglysasquatch wrote:
Allegory wrote:
Tipping is mostly a burdensome and annoying system for both servers and customers. It belongs in situations where exceptional service is really important. If you're paying $100 or more for your dinner, then tipping has a place in that environment. However, tipping has no place in a restaurant like Chili's.

Edited, Jun 3rd 2009 11:20am by Allegory
You're totally looking at this from the wrong perspective. Tipping allows the customer to set the price of their meal, with the menu prices being the lowest charge. See, if everyone stops tipping waiters/bartenders/etc, then people stop working those jobs, unless the restaurants pay substantially more (and I do mean substantially as putting up with the sh*t most waitstaff do on a daily basis is ridiculous. People are crazy when it comes to their food). If they bump wages up significantly, then the price of food jumps and then you have a set rate, that you have no control over.
Yeah, I like tipping for traditional services - for being waited on.

I could be annoyed about the fairly recent appearance of a tip jar on every counter in every gas station, small store, coffee shop, deli, news stand, etc, except that I mostly just ignore them.

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#24 Jun 03 2009 at 8:37 AM Rating: Excellent
Well, that is true . . . if it's someplace I regularly go, and they know me by name and ask me if I want "the usual" knowing exactly what it is I want, then I'll probably toss in my loose change. That hasn't been the case since I did my internship with redandblack.com back in 2000, however. (The old offices were right next to Espresso Royale, and god damn they had some delicious coffee.)

But . . . really, if you're charging me $4.00 for a large cup of coffee, even if it is delicious fair trade coffee, and you're also offering me bag that will eventually make 16 servings of such large coffee for $16, then you've just made $3.00 off that cup of coffee after the cost of the raw materials. I know a lot of that is eaten up by the supply chain process, but really, that's 300% profit.
#25 Jun 03 2009 at 8:54 AM Rating: Decent
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I tip people who could potentially be left alone with my food long enough to **** in it.


If you want people to **** in your food there are cheaper ways to do so. Being an ***, which I'm sure you're familiar with, is an easy one.
#26 Jun 03 2009 at 8:57 AM Rating: Decent
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Pensive the Ludicrous wrote:
I never tip jars because I feel like a douchebag holding up a line while I try to count out change or something.


If you're counting out change for the tip jar you are a douche. Just sayin'.


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