It doesn't matter. You can show people as many photos of mangled and violated corpses as they can take without vomiting, they'll still go to war.
If we haven't realised that war is bad by now, we will never, ever realise it.
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poodle,
Capitulating to total genocide is much worse.
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If we haven't realised that war is bad by now, we will never, ever realise it.
Capitulating to total genocide is much worse.
publiusvarus wrote:
poodle,
Capitulating to total genocide is much worse.
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If we haven't realised that war is bad by now, we will never, ever realise it.
Capitulating to total genocide is much worse.
It totally is. And this war had nothing to do with that.
publiusvarus wrote:
poodle,
Capitulating to total genocide is much worse.
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If we haven't realised that war is bad by now, we will never, ever realise it.
Capitulating to total genocide is much worse.
Also, testicular cancer is pretty bad.
Genocide? Where?
varus is the one espousing war on Islam. That sounds suspiciously like genocide to me. Hasn't someone else tried to wipe out a particular non-christian religion before?
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
Debalic wrote:
Hasn't someone else tried to wipe out a particular non-christian religion before?
Yeah, I think it was Totem. Good thing we foiled his plans.
The One and Only Poldaran wrote:
I'd say censor the images but swiftly bring those who were involved to justice.
dont matter how many people you punish, they're still gonna do it. We prosecute hundreds of sailors here in japan for getting drunk and raping, murdering, or stealing from the japanese (and some do more than one of these things). i'm sure if you heard some of the horror stories about what our
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only protectors of our foreign policy
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We prosecute hundreds of sailors here in japan for (...)
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if you heard some of the horror stories (...)
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you'd feel just as ashamed of them as i do.
You're surprised that they are human? Murder, rape, larceny ...all normal.
If you want to know what humans do, you don't need horror stories about sailors. Read the news.
I'm sure you're quite wrong. The Japanese never murder, rape or steal from each other. All crime is imported, mostly from America, which as we all know is bad.
Bad, bad, bad, bad, bad.
Bad, bad, bad, bad, bad.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
Yes, their outreach to the Chinese, Korean, Philipino peoples this past century are very heartwarmin.
Samira wrote:
I'm sure you're quite wrong. The Japanese never murder, rape or steal from each other. All crime is imported, mostly from America, which as we all know is bad.
Bad, bad, bad, bad, bad.
Bad, bad, bad, bad, bad.
Hows this for you?
Zaikimaliki wrote:
dont matter how many people you punish, they're still gonna do it. We prosecute hundreds of american sailors here in japan for getting drunk and raping, murdering, or stealing from the japanese (and some do more than one of these things). i'm sure if you heard some of the horror stories about what our
did, you'd feel just as ashamed of them as i do.
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only protectors of our foreign policy
did, you'd feel just as ashamed of them as i do.
Edited, Jun 2nd 2009 10:15pm by Zaikimaliki
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dont matter how many people you punish, they're still gonna do it.
Are you saying that because of this fact, we shouldn't bother punishing anyone at all for these crimes? If so, well...enjoy your sh*tty anarchy.
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We prosecute hundreds of american sailors here in japan for getting drunk and raping, murdering, or stealing from the japanese (and some do more than one of these things).
Allow me to reverse this:
We prosecute hundreds of citizens of Japanese ancestry here in North America for getting drunk and raping, murdering, or stealing from the other citizens (and some do more than one of these things)
See? It doesn't matter what the nationality is, people will still do terrible sh*t, and they should all be punished.
edited because typing is hard with a cigarette in one's hand.
Edited, Jun 3rd 2009 8:20am by Driftwood
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I've always read Driftwood as the straight man in varus' double act. It helps if you read all of his posts in the voice of Droopy Dog.
Debo,
Actually Islam has already declared war on western civilization. Western culture can either capitulate or defend itself. Guess which of these options I advocate? I know you would rather pretend Islam is this peace loving religion hijacked by a few radicals; but that's not reality.
Sometimes war is the only solution to preserve ones basic rights. Unfortunately the Democrats would rather get on their knees than defend the liberty the forefathers of this country fought, and died, for.
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varus is the one espousing war on Islam. That sounds suspiciously like genocide to me. Hasn't someone else tried to wipe out a particular non-christian religion before?
Actually Islam has already declared war on western civilization. Western culture can either capitulate or defend itself. Guess which of these options I advocate? I know you would rather pretend Islam is this peace loving religion hijacked by a few radicals; but that's not reality.
Sometimes war is the only solution to preserve ones basic rights. Unfortunately the Democrats would rather get on their knees than defend the liberty the forefathers of this country fought, and died, for.
publiusvarus wrote:
Debo,
Actually Islam has already declared war on western civilization. Western culture can either capitulate or defend itself. Guess which of these options I advocate? I know you would rather pretend Islam is this peace loving religion hijacked by a few radicals; but that's not reality.
Sometimes war is the only solution to preserve ones basic rights. Unfortunately the Democrats would rather get on their knees than defend the liberty the forefathers of this country fought, and died, for.
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varus is the one espousing war on Islam. That sounds suspiciously like genocide to me. Hasn't someone else tried to wipe out a particular non-christian religion before?
Actually Islam has already declared war on western civilization. Western culture can either capitulate or defend itself. Guess which of these options I advocate? I know you would rather pretend Islam is this peace loving religion hijacked by a few radicals; but that's not reality.
Sometimes war is the only solution to preserve ones basic rights. Unfortunately the Democrats would rather get on their knees than defend the liberty the forefathers of this country fought, and died, for.
If Christianity (or at least all their leaders) declared a Crusade on someone or something, would you, as a Christian, immediately strap bombs to yourself and kill for the glory of Jesus? No. Well, ok, maybe YOU would. But not most "Christians." "Islam" as you are describing it is just a portion hijacked by a few radicals. If Muhammad himself came down and declared Jihad, you might have a point. Same if Christ came down and declared a Crusade. Barring that, we are NOT at war with Islam, and Islam is not at war with us.
publiusvarus wrote:
Debo,
Actually Islam has already declared war on western civilization. Western culture can either capitulate or defend itself. Guess which of these options I advocate? I know you would rather pretend Islam is this peace loving religion hijacked by a few radicals; but that's not reality.
Sometimes war is the only solution to preserve ones basic rights. Unfortunately the Democrats would rather get on their knees than defend the liberty the forefathers of this country fought, and died, for.
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varus is the one espousing war on Islam. That sounds suspiciously like genocide to me. Hasn't someone else tried to wipe out a particular non-christian religion before?
Actually Islam has already declared war on western civilization. Western culture can either capitulate or defend itself. Guess which of these options I advocate? I know you would rather pretend Islam is this peace loving religion hijacked by a few radicals; but that's not reality.
Sometimes war is the only solution to preserve ones basic rights. Unfortunately the Democrats would rather get on their knees than defend the liberty the forefathers of this country fought, and died, for.
A radical sect of worshippers of Islam has declared a fatwa on Americans. Islam itself is a religion.
You're right we should declare war, because that's been going well so far.
Varrus wrote:
I know you would rather pretend Islam is this peace loving religion hijacked by a few radicals; but that's not reality.
It is. Considering there are between 3-5 million Muslims in the US, and around 16 million in the EU alone, I'm sure we would've felt it a bit more if Islam really had declared war on western civilisation.
publiusvarus wrote:
I know you would rather pretend Islam is this peace loving religion hijacked by a few radicals; but that's not reality.
Locked,
Ah the ever popular Christian/Muhammad comparisons. Only you seem happy to ignore the fact the Muhammad used force and violence to achieve his ends. Jesus did not. Perhaps this fundamental difference is why ME Muslims are so violently radical.
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If Muhammad himself came down and declared Jihad, you might have a point. Same if Christ came down and declared a Crusade.
Ah the ever popular Christian/Muhammad comparisons. Only you seem happy to ignore the fact the Muhammad used force and violence to achieve his ends. Jesus did not. Perhaps this fundamental difference is why ME Muslims are so violently radical.
publiusvarus wrote:
Jesus did not. Perhaps this fundamental difference is why ME Muslims are so violently radical.
That's right Varrus, there's no violence in the Bible 
Ash,
Apparently you don't see the difference between Jesus preaching love and compassion and Muhammad using military prowess to dominate.
People are always going to kill in the name of this or that. What we're talking about here is the basis for these respective religions.
Apparently you don't see the difference between Jesus preaching love and compassion and Muhammad using military prowess to dominate.
People are always going to kill in the name of this or that. What we're talking about here is the basis for these respective religions.
publiusvarus wrote:
Ash,
Apparently you don't see the difference between Jesus preaching love and compassion and Muhammad using military prowess to dominate.
People are always going to kill in the name of this or that. What we're talking about here is the basis for these respective religions.
Apparently you don't see the difference between Jesus preaching love and compassion and Muhammad using military prowess to dominate.
People are always going to kill in the name of this or that. What we're talking about here is the basis for these respective religions.
publiusvarus wrote:
Ash,
Apparently you don't see the difference between Jesus preaching love and compassion and Muhammad using military prowess to dominate.
People are always going to kill in the name of this or that. What we're talking about here is the basis for these respective religions.
Apparently you don't see the difference between Jesus preaching love and compassion and Muhammad using military prowess to dominate.
People are always going to kill in the name of this or that. What we're talking about here is the basis for these respective religions.
The basis of Christianity, essentially, is that there are no gods but the Christian god, and that Jesus is the son of god. (My own interpretation, but I don't think it's far off.)
The basis of Islam is that "None is rightfully worshipped except God (La ilaaha ‘ill-Allah), and Muhammad is the Messenger of God (Muhammad-ur-Rasool-ullah)." (Cite)
Not really much of a difference, and no mention of bloodshed in either. Nice try, though.
Edited, Jun 3rd 2009 10:38am by Belkira
Ash,
And this is how Islamic leaders want you to feel. Oh and by the way that's a pretty big exception.
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For the record, I find you to be no different from a "radical Muslim," except that you haven't taken up killing people yet.
And this is how Islamic leaders want you to feel. Oh and by the way that's a pretty big exception.
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