How old before you know you're a boy or a girl?Follow

Of course you don't explain it because you don't actually have an argument, this is just another **** measuring contest for you. Of course, that **** is only socially constructed.



Edited, May 20th 2009 8:19pm by Annabella

No, it wasn't, it just was rather base for me, haha.

Of course, it could be taken at least two ways depending on how you choose to define ****.

Both would be subjective.

Nexa

Edited, May 20th 2009 8:28pm by Nexa

I don't need your pity laughter! I get enough confused and frightened laughter at work to get me by alllllllllll evening!

Nexa

Allegory was in an orgy? Story please.

Of course you don't explain it because you don't actually have an argument,

I didn't explain because I'd assumed you were familiar with the research. That said, I'll let Nexa explain it to you if she's so inclined. Then you can escape your bias of feeling that I'm belittling you somehow when I disagree with something you post.

Also, she has a ******, so I'm sure that'll help.

First there was transgender surgery, now, there is multi-genital application surgery!

Much as i hate to say it, it's actually not him rateing her down.

Edited for clarity

Edited, May 20th 2009 5:59pm by Kaolian

No, I didn't think he was rating her down. I doubt he even knows how to rate.

Just saying that it's odd.

Your assumption is that anyone who has interest in this family's story must be seeing that as a "freak news story" speaks to your own bias. I've heard about more and more families talking about issues of parents trying to come up with a road map or making decisions about how to raise a child who may be transgendered. I think it is an important consideration and I'll say that as someone is interested in childhood development and parenting. I think some of us have known a few too many trans-people to dismiss this as a "freak news story."

And bullsh*t, there is alot of evidence that gender identity and gender variance has both genetic and environmental factors, just like sexual orientation and identity. And it happens early in development. I'm not sure what you are reading that is defining your arguments.I've worked with alot of doctors and psychologists at different times at the Fenway Health Center, who work alot with a transgendered population--many of them specialists, and I haven't heard them refer to this view of gender being purely subjective or constructed. I've heard over and over again that it is established in the medical and psychological communities that there is a biological basis to transgendered identity. Really, let's hear your expertise in human gender identity. I'm really curious.

I'd like to see it, especially as it establishes what you are saying, basically, that there is no evidence that transgendered identity has a biological basis. Do you think it is a choice? A failure of society? We're not open minded enough to let boys wear dresses and have to oppress them with the evils of transidentities?



Edited, May 20th 2009 10:56pm by Annabella

His points are easier to understand when he explains himself and doesn't come up with a one-line quip.

Also, I think TLW wants to give Smash a hummer.

You should want a ****** because it can cook and clean for you, and maybe give you a few kids.

Hmm. Maybe some of them know something we don't?

I blame Canada.

Damnit, I don't wanna be doomed!

http://news.scotsman.com/scitech/Men-are-all-doomed-.5288336.jp

Men are all doomed – but not for 5m years

Published Date: 21 May 2009
By RHIANNON EDWARD
MEN are on the road to extinction as their genes shrink and slowly fade away, according to one expert.

Professor Jennifer Graves, a leading researcher in human sex chromosomes, said the male Y chromosome was dying and could run out within the next five million years.

But she said men may follow the path of a type of rodent that manages to reproduce despite not having the vital genes that make up the Y chromosome.

She told medical students at the annual outreach public lecture at the Royal College of Surgeons in Ireland that a second species of human beings could even be born in the future.

"You need a Y chromosome to be male," said Prof Graves, from Australia.

"Three hundred million years ago, the Y chromosome had about 1,400 genes on it, and now it's only got 45 left, so, at this rate, we're going to run out of genes on the Y chromosome in about five million years. The Y chromosome is dying and the big question is what happens then."

The male Y chromosome has a gene – SRY – that switches on the development of testes and pumps out male hormones that determine maleness.

She said it was not known what would happen once the Y chromosome disappeared. "Humans can't become parthenogenetic, like some lizards, because several vital genes must come from the male," she said. "But the good news is certain rodent species – the mole voles of Eastern Europe and the country rats of Japan – have no Y chromosome and no SRY gene.

"Yet there are still plenty of healthy male mole voles and country rats running around. Some other gene must have taken over the job and we'd like to know what that gene is."

Prof Graves' work has paved the way for developments in the diagnosis of gender disorders and gender-related disease in humans.


Edited, May 20th 2009 11:43pm by Kaolian