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#27 May 15 2009 at 3:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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Ambrya wrote:
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How do you decide which spouse does the dishes in a hetero marriage, Stubs? Smiley: dubious

Isn't it normally the one with more time, or who's turn it is?


Mr. Ambrya and I have a deal. He hates to cook, I hate to clean. So I unload the dishwasher and cook the meal, he cleans up the mess and loads the dishwasher.

I got the better end of that bargain, but he has no complaints.



Smash likes cooking most things more than I do, and I don't particularly mind cleaning. However, I think an arrangement based on that would be inequitable for our particular relationship because while he enjoys cooking, he also enjoys doing things like flipping stirfries a foot above the pan, or cracking eggs twelve feet from the trash can and then throwing the shells across the room to it. I would kill him if expected to clean up after that. It's bad enough that while cooking he never puts anything back into the refrigerator.

Oh and BD, husband = man, wife = woman...regardless of who is saying it...I'm not clear on the confusion.

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#28 May 15 2009 at 4:03 PM Rating: Decent
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It's bad enough that while cooking he never puts anything back into the refrigerator.


Oooohhhhhh!!!!!!!!!! Erroneous!!! Erroneous!!! Oh wait, WHILE cooking? Probably true. Who puts thing back in the refrigerator while cooking, ms "room temperature egg, are you ******* with me? That's not really a thing"
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#29 May 15 2009 at 4:23 PM Rating: Good
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I would kill him if expected to clean up after that.


I can see that. Lucky for Mr. Ambrya, while I might sometimes be ambitious in my cooking and tackle foods that require a lot of dishes and mess, I'm not quite that flamboyant.

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It's bad enough that while cooking he never puts anything back into the refrigerator.


Mr. Ambrya is constitutionally incapable of closing cupboard doors and drawers. No idea why. It's like the part of the brain that typically handles "what is opened needs to be closed" is faulty.

We have nightlights in the kitchen now, to avoid any midnight water run resulting in broken toes and bruised shins.

#30 May 15 2009 at 4:41 PM Rating: Excellent
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It's bad enough that while cooking he never puts anything back into the refrigerator.


Oooohhhhhh!!!!!!!!!! Erroneous!!! Erroneous!!! Oh wait, WHILE cooking? Probably true. Who puts thing back in the refrigerator while cooking, ms "room temperature egg, are you @#%^ing with me? That's not really a thing"


Whatever. I'm sorry but the charm of having breakfast prepared for you wears off quickly when you take your plate to the kitchen, step in egg gunk, see the cheese has been left on the table along with half a pepper, half a tomato, the package of mushrooms, and the eggs. Were you warming the rest of the dozen up in anticipation of perhaps baking something later in the day? Did I ruin it for you? Oh I'm so sorry.

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#31 May 15 2009 at 4:53 PM Rating: Good
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One of my friends gives me organic eggs, telling me that I should leave them out at room temperature, like the Europeans and like her. I agree and then go home and put my eggs in the refrigerator.

I wonder what is better for the egg.
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#32 May 15 2009 at 4:59 PM Rating: Good
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I could give a @#%^ if you die tomorrow in a chainsaw rape


Couldn't.

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One of my friends gives me organic eggs, telling me that I should leave them out at room temperature, like the Europeans and like her.


We do? I've never seen it.

Edited, May 16th 2009 1:00am by Kavekk
#33 May 15 2009 at 5:02 PM Rating: Decent
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Funny how just yesterday a whole bunch of folks were insisting that there were no measurable tax benefits granted by marriage. Just gotta love the timing...


Actually, that's not at all what we were claiming. We were claiming that there were no measurable tax INCREASES to us het-folk in allowing gay people to marry. Entirely different claim.


Um... Who's going to pay for the $1820/year the gay worker is no longer paying for medical care for his/her partner? Someone has to pay that, right? Does it just magically appear out of the social-engineering fairy's butt?


Do you understand that when you have a population of people all paying taxes into a pool of funds used by the government, and if one group of people pay less in taxes for some reason (like a tax break on their medical care), that this means that everyone else has to pay a bit more to make up the difference? I'm not presenting some wacky opinion here. It's kind of a mathematical fact.

Single people are subsidizing such benefits for married people. How else do you think the government can offer a tax break or interest rate break or enhanced pension benefits to married people? They have to collect a bit more to fund those things than they would otherwise. Married people gain the benefit of that extra cost, while single people don't. Thus, single people are paying for the benefits.


I'm really amazed that this is apparently such an incredibly difficult concept for so many people to grasp. Do you really not understand the math? Or are you just unwilling to do it because you don't want a political position you hold to be weakened? It's just that I can't believe so many people are so unable to get this pretty basic and simple idea.
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#34 May 15 2009 at 5:18 PM Rating: Decent
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Ambrya wrote:
Mr. Ambrya is constitutionally incapable of closing cupboard doors and drawers. No idea why. It's like the part of the brain that typically handles "what is opened needs to be closed" is faulty.

We have nightlights in the kitchen now, to avoid any midnight water run resulting in broken toes and bruised shins.

My wife is the same way. For some unknown reason she never closed the pantry doors, so when I walked into the kitchen I would impale my forehead on the bottom corner of a top door.
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#35 May 15 2009 at 5:23 PM Rating: Good
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gbaji, this discussion is now about room-temp eggs and open cabinets. Keep up.
#36 May 15 2009 at 5:29 PM Rating: Decent
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gbaji, this discussion is now about room-temp eggs and open cabinets. Keep up.


I was making a yummy egg sammich a couple weeks ago, and one of the eggs didn't quite crack all the way open. There was a thickish membrane still holding the contents inside. I squeamishly tossed the whole egg. No sense taking any chances, right?
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#37 May 15 2009 at 6:45 PM Rating: Default
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Haha, I had assumed Smash was responding to a gbaji post there. Then I scrolled up.

How do you decide which spouse does the dishes in a hetero marriage, Stubs? Smiley: dubious

Isn't it normally the one with more time, or who's turn it is?


My point was not the confusion over whether the wife was a man or a woman, but the oddity of a marriage with two "wives". Whether marriage is between a man and a woman, or two women or two men, my brain still thinks there should be a "husband" and a "wife". with each accepting a distinct role in the relationship (and no, I'm not implying the dishes and cooking are the sole responsibility of the "wife"). I'm aware this is not always the case; I was just commenting on how the arrangement seemed odd to me. Some of you are either incredibly dense or unreasonably resistant to outside views.
#38 May 15 2009 at 6:49 PM Rating: Good
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Some of you are either incredibly dense or unreasonably resistant to outside views.
No, I get it. You're used to gays being "partners." It's just silly, that's all.

Heh, "I now pronounce you wife and wife. The brides may kiss."
#39 May 15 2009 at 6:57 PM Rating: Decent
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My point was not the confusion over whether the wife was a man or a woman, but the oddity of a marriage with two "wives". Whether marriage is between a man and a woman, or two women or two men, my brain still thinks there should be a "husband" and a "wife". with each accepting a distinct role in the relationship (and no, I'm not implying the dishes and cooking are the sole responsibility of the "wife"). I'm aware this is not always the case; I was just commenting on how the arrangement seemed odd to me. Some of you are either incredibly dense or unreasonably resistant to outside views.


No one is "resistant" to anything. Your "views" are idiotic and backward. It's essentially the same as you saying "I don't want Niggers to touch my food" followed by "What? I'm just saying it makes me uneasy to eat things that were handled by people that don't look me. Boy, people don't like to hear opinions that aren't their own!"
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#40 May 15 2009 at 8:20 PM Rating: Good
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Gbaji wrote:
There was a thickish membrane still holding the contents inside. I squeamishly tossed the whole egg. No sense taking any chances, right?


That sounds like it was just the membrane beneath the shell that all eggs have, the egg was probably fine. (The membrane is mostly protein and is actually fairly tough but you'll usually break it when you crack the shell).
#41 May 16 2009 at 12:52 AM Rating: Decent
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One of my friends gives me organic eggs, telling me that I should leave them out at room temperature, like the Europeans and like her. I agree and then go home and put my eggs in the refrigerator.

I wonder what is better for the egg.


Eggs don't need to be put in a fridge. I don't know if it's really bad for an egg to be put in a fridge, tastewise like chocolate, though.

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I was making a yummy egg sammich a couple weeks ago, and one of the eggs didn't quite crack all the way open. There was a thickish membrane still holding the contents inside. I squeamishly tossed the whole egg. No sense taking any chances, right?


If it was a free range egg, it's quite natural for it to have a thicker shell and membrane. They're the easiest to separate the egg white and yolk too, just hold the yolk in your hand and let the white dripp off. That will never work with an industrial battery egg.

Edited, May 16th 2009 10:56am by Zieveraar

Edited, May 16th 2009 10:57am by Zieveraar
#42 May 16 2009 at 3:49 AM Rating: Default
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My point was not the confusion over whether the wife was a man or a woman, but the oddity of a marriage with two "wives". Whether marriage is between a man and a woman, or two women or two men, my brain still thinks there should be a "husband" and a "wife". with each accepting a distinct role in the relationship (and no, I'm not implying the dishes and cooking are the sole responsibility of the "wife"). I'm aware this is not always the case; I was just commenting on how the arrangement seemed odd to me. Some of you are either incredibly dense or unreasonably resistant to outside views.


No one is "resistant" to anything. Your "views" are idiotic and backward. It's essentially the same as you saying "I don't want Niggers to touch my food" followed by "What? I'm just saying it makes me uneasy to eat things that were handled by people that don't look me. Boy, people don't like to hear opinions that aren't their own!"


You throw around words like idiot and moron and simultaneously fail to realize that rejecting someone else's views on the sole basis that they are not similar to your own is both idiotic and moronic. I don't respect you or your 8 layers of bullsh*t. Never have, and likely never will.

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No, I get it. You're used to gays being "partners."


No. I'm just saying that I find the situational use of the words "wife" or "husband" odd in this case. Never said it was stupid, wrong, or anything of the sort. Just not used to it, is all. I find the use of boyfriend and girlfriend in the similar situations perfectly normal, and I suspect it's due merely to continued exposure over time. No need to be so obtuse about it.

Furthermore, what's with the mandated LGBT support around here? The moment someone suggests anything other than unconditional support for the community, some of you foam at the mouth like rabid dogs.

Edited, May 16th 2009 6:52am by BrownDuck
#43 May 16 2009 at 3:58 AM Rating: Good
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You throw around words like idiot and moron and simultaneously fail to realize that rejecting someone else's views on the sole basis that they are not similar to your own is both idiotic and moronic. I don't respect you or your 8 layers of bullsh*t. Never have, and likely never will.


That's not the basis, though, is it? I don't disagree with Hitler's idea that Jews are subhuman because it's different to my own view, but because it's unfounded racism.

Edited, May 16th 2009 11:58am by Kavekk
#44 May 16 2009 at 8:43 AM Rating: Good
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My point was not the confusion over whether the wife was a man or a woman, but the oddity of a marriage with two "wives". Whether marriage is between a man and a woman, or two women or two men, my brain still thinks there should be a "husband" and a "wife". with each accepting a distinct role in the relationship (and no, I'm not implying the dishes and cooking are the sole responsibility of the "wife"). I'm aware this is not always the case; I was just commenting on how the arrangement seemed odd to me. Some of you are either incredibly dense or unreasonably resistant to outside views.

Others are adamantly resistant to any kind of change that may threaten the ideals of a male-dominated 1950s society.

It's not hard: "Husband" refers to a man who is married. "Wife" refers to a woman who is married. Taken individually, it makes no difference who the partner is.
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You throw around words like idiot and moron and simultaneously fail to realize that rejecting someone else's views on the sole basis that they are not similar to your own is both idiotic and moronic.


Sure. Fortunately for me, I'm not doing that. I'm rejecting your views on the basis that they're childish and nonsensical. They have no foundation in fact, no relevance sociologically, and will be seen as shockingly antiquated and ignorant in ten years.


I don't respect you or your 8 layers of bullsh*t. Never have, and likely never will.


Who gives a fuck? We've had this discussion before, if I wanted you to respect or admire me, I'd manipulate you into doing so. You can't comprehend how trivial a thing that would be for me. I know you cling to this magical belief that you're a free thinking snowflake who makes internal decisions about what to believe based upon your life experiences.

It's not the case. You're a sucker. An easy demographic. I'm frankly unsure why you post, as nothing you've ever communicated has come as a surprise to anyone. Narcissism, I guess.

This other idea that you cling to that what you post affects me in any way at all is equally ludicrous. You haven't "struck a nerve!!!111!one!!" You're utterly meaningless to me. I remember things about your personal narrative because of the frequency of reference of them on this board, not because I care. Nothing you do impacts my life in any way. Is this sinking in yet? You're little people, one of the millions of meaningless cogs humming away in a machine happily being exploited by people who matter. If you die, no one cares. If you change your mind on some social issue, no one cares. If you don't no one cares.

If you want me to care about what you think, or what you think about me, accomplish something beyond not starving death with your life. When anything you do matters at all, what you do will matter to me.

No. I'm just saying that I find the situational use of the words "wife" or "husband" odd in this case. Never said it was stupid, wrong, or anything of the sort. Just not used to it, is all. I find the use of boyfriend and girlfriend in the similar situations perfectly normal, and I suspect it's due merely to continued exposure over time. No need to be so obtuse about it.

Everyone understands, idiot. What people don't understand is what your problem is. If someone told me school buses told him where to buy the best tuxedos, I wouldn't be confused by what he was saying, I would, however, wonder what the **** was wrong with him.


Furthermore, what's with the mandated LGBT support around here? The moment someone suggests anything other than unconditional support for the community, some of you foam at the mouth like rabid dogs.


Yeah, I don't know. It's amazing, huh? It's nothing like the open minded willingness to hear other people's views about Blacks being lazy and shiftless, Jews running the world banking system, or Asians being degenerate gamblers who can't drive cars. Ok, that last one's a bad example.

You're really *surprised* that people react badly to your decades gone unease with gender roles? Society has moved on. I'm sure there are other boards you could post on where people would support your fucked up personal hang ups without instantly realizing their genesis. Maybe you should post there.
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Does this mean when they start cloneing people, someone could marry themselves? That would be odd to say the least.
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Does this mean when they start cloneing people, someone could marry themselves? That would be odd to say the least.


Troglodyte!

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#48 May 16 2009 at 11:51 AM Rating: Good
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One of my friends gives me organic eggs, telling me that I should leave them out at room temperature, like the Europeans and like her. I agree and then go home and put my eggs in the refrigerator.

I wonder what is better for the egg.


Back on the dog-farm, I'd often fail to collect eggs for several days at a time(on account of hangovers, of course), and they'd be allowed to roast in the hot hen-house. Those neglected eggs were the fUcking best. The yolk would be redder and the whole thing would be more substantial and sometimes I could use the little bones for toothpicks.
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Does this mean when they start cloneing people, someone could marry themselves? That would be odd to say the least.


Troglodyte!



Well, I suppose you could clone a troglodyte if you could recover an intact strand of DNA somehow, but i'm pretty sure they wouldn't let you marry one.
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#50 May 16 2009 at 12:27 PM Rating: Decent
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It's not hard: "Husband" refers to a man who is married. "Wife" refers to a woman who is married. Taken individually, it makes no difference who the partner is.


Actually...

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1. A man joined to a woman in marriage; a male spouse.
2. Chiefly British. A manager or steward, as of a household.
3. Archaic. A prudent, thrifty manager.

tr.v., -band·ed, -band·ing, -bands.

1. To use sparingly or economically; conserve: husband one's energy.
2. Archaic. To find a husband for.

[Middle English huseband, from Old English hūsbōnda, from Old Norse hūsbōndi : hūs, house + bōndi, būandi, householder, present participle of būa, to dwell.]

WORD HISTORY The English word husband, even though it is a basic kinship term, is not a native English word. It comes ultimately from the Old Norse word hūsbōndi, meaning “master of a house,” which was borrowed into Old English as hūsbōnda. The second element in hūsbōndi, bōndi, means “a man who has land and stock” and comes from the Old Norse verb būa, meaning “to live, dwell, have a household.” The master of the house was usually a spouse as well, of course, and it would seem that the main modern sense of husband arises from this overlap. When the Norsemen settled in Anglo-Saxon England, they would often take Anglo-Saxon women as their wives; it was then natural to refer to the husband using the Norse word for the concept, and to refer to the wife with her Anglo-Saxon (Old English) designation, wīf, “woman, wife” (Modern English wife). Interestingly, Old English did have a feminine word related to Old Norse hūsbōndi that meant “mistress of a house,” namely, hūsbonde. Had this word survived into Modern English, it would have sounded identical to husband—surely leading to ambiguities.


I typically refrain from quoting the dictionary, but the basic definition and long history of the word lends credibility to my interpretation of it. Words are being redefined all the time (e.g. marriage) and I'm not opposed to it. I am hardly a villain, however, for interpreting the word as it has been historically represented.

Some people here need to learn the value of moderate sensibility over aggressive personal attacks. Polarization of a topic rarely changes anyone's mind for the better.
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Does this mean when they start cloneing people, someone could marry themselves? That would be odd to say the least.


Troglodyte!



Well, I suppose you could clone a troglodyte if you could recover an intact strand of DNA somehow, but i'm pretty sure they wouldn't let you marry one.


I think you're thinking trilobite. The only animals named Troglodyte are still alive.
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