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The intellectual dishonesty in the statement is self-apparent coming from admins.


Varus, even though he is easily the biggest @#%^-rag on the face of the Earth, doesn't disrupt the forums, and shouldn't be banned as he, as far as I know, exclusively posts in what I feel is the appropriate forum; the Asylum.





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Good game folks, good game.





Edited, May 13th 2009 10:19pm by NaughtyWord

No one seems to be particularily fond of that one, it may not make the final cut. Some of these as you may have guessed came out of comittee.

Yeah, don't ban varrus. If for no other reason, who doesn't wish to see Jophiel wander half-blind through a city destroyed through okra based technology.

I just PM'd myself an angry PM over that text.

It's kinda the national admin sport around these parts. It doesn't really seem to discourage him, and we never really go after him witht he vengance we go after gourdraiden.

If I were an admin, and such a complaint came to me I'd say:


Well don't post in the Asylum idiot.

So, just for clarification, I present a few scenarios. These are all just mere hypotheticals and should be taken as such. I just want to make sure I don't cross any imaginary moving lines.

First, I assume this is right out:

"That was such a poor example of administering that I now desire to rape you for the express purpose of impreganting you so's I can then murder our rape-baby."

I think we can agree that's inappropriate. But what about a slightly more ambiguous tone, such as:

"Oh yeah, great move, admins. Even better than the time you raped all those children."

See that one's iffy to me, but it really depends which voice you choose to read it with, yes? Do we all agree it's very difficult to judge tone over the internet? I mean, can you tell if I'm laughing or really serious about raping people's children if you can't determine whether or not I'm *************

Anyway, just some food for thought.

The purpose and intent of the proposed rule is to prevent people from going after children in a manner designed to invoke pure fury in the other party. I think we may add some more clarification to it since it seems to be causing some confusion.

Honestly, I think the Asylum should have a separate set of rules, then.

I've personally no problem abstaining from posting "cruelly" in the OoT, but the description of this forum not only includes the oft-abused and debated phrase "No holds barred" but also the not-so-subtle disclaimer "Not for the faint of heart". Frankly, if you're allowing pure fury to provoked within you because of the trolling some anonymous stranger perpetrates upon you than you are by definition "faint of heart", and you're kids should probably be raped really forcefully and without any lube, even spit.

I think I conveyed my point there. Hopefully it wasn't lost in my verbiage and tone, as is so often the case.

As for relegating disagreements with admins to PMs, again I can totally abide by that, but I'd ask that admins not circumvent that system by requesting users troll other users in the feedback forum. That's actually a lot less important to me personally than being allowed to make rape jokes and belittle the merits of people's kids, though.

It's a bit of a business puzzler. How do you do the customer surveys?

It was interesting during the recent debate about moderation in the OOT. There were many people pointing out that newbies got flamed regularly and dissappeared very quickly, and we were missing out on growth and life because of that. But I was surprised how many lurkers broke their silence and said that they read this site for BT, and posters like him, the extreme trolls. I knew that there was a balancing population of posters who love the trolls, but I didn't realise there's all these lurkers up there for them.

So the question is, how many customers are here for the trolls, and how many are here despite the trolls, or leaving? And can the Asylum become again the safely contained thriving troll-home it used to be?

My rule has always been that you don't post that which you aren't ready to have mocked. Children or no, this is not a good rule for our community here. There is another OOT forum where people can post safely. The Asylum is like a family and I don't want to worry about what I say here, though I recognize this isn't directed at me. It has been no-holds barred, it should remain no-holds barred. The only exception should be threats of actual physical violence (I'm going to drive to your house and beat the **** out of you). If people cannot handle it, they should not be here. I have been made fun of about personal issues many times and you'll never find a complaint, and I would expect that that's true of =4 regulars. The ones complaining DO NOT BELONG in a NO HOLDS BARRED FORUM. I apply this to both the children and rape topic being off limits here.

The rule, should you need one, should be "complaints about content in the Asylum not related to physical violence or real-world threats will only lead to the suggestion that you not read or post there."

My commentary on the "don't complain about admins" amendment is in the OOT, sorry for the split.

I'm going to say just one more thing: The reason that our family in the Asylum is enduring is because we feel like we can talk about anything and many of us have disclosed vast amounts of information about our personal lives and histories and value the openness and acceptance (even under anonymity) that we have here. To start, 8 years later, to put new rules on what we can and can't say and do and talk about will only be extremely detrimental to both my personal enjoyment of the forum, but the atmosphere and unity of the community as a whole.

If it's gotten to the point that people are coming in here, getting bent out of shape, complaining, then getting the community changed for everyone else, there's a problem with the response structure. I'd rather we had the asylum move to registered member list only, like I have for the flame and adult forums on other sites. Have the asylum only show up in the forum list for people who have been granted access, are over 18, whatever.

Nexa