I'd just like to point out how well Obama is doing on the international stage.
Not placating to AIPAC or Israel is a major step for any US President, and Obama is pushing the link between forming a two-state solution and peace with Iran, this is a major step in the right direction. Using Rahm Emanuel and Joe Biden to make this case to the powerful Israeli community is just a beautiful coordination of diplomacy.
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/05/05/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry4992579.shtml
http://www.israeltoday.co.il/default.aspx?tabid=178&nid=18709
I also suspect there is much going on behind the scenes with Pakistan because this is the most vigilante Pakistan has ever been against the Al-Qaeda and Taliban stronghold on its western border. I suspect this had something to do with the closed door meetings Obama's admnistration has been having with the Pakistani "government" recently.
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/05/07/Pakistan-says-Taliban-peace-deal-will-end/UPI-40471241695943/
I am pleasantly surprised so far with Obama's handling of foreign policy especially in the Middle East. Even Hillary Clinton seems to be singing his tune instead of her own. We'll see how Iraq goes, but what do you think so far?
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hangtennow wrote:
Souls,
You're crazy. Obama is capitulating to terrorists. That's all.
Tell me again whether Iran and the other muslim nations there are willing to recognize Israels right to be a nation.
You're crazy. Obama is capitulating to terrorists. That's all.
Tell me again whether Iran and the other muslim nations there are willing to recognize Israels right to be a nation.
AshOnMyTomatoes wrote:
Why do we give such a @#%^ about Israel?
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
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Tell me again whether Iran and the other muslim nations there are willing to recognize Israels right to be a nation.
I'm not sure what you mean by "recognize." A nation is comprised of individual citizens who never agree on anything, so it would be impossible for a nation to be willing to recognize Israel's right to exist. The government is another story. Iran's government is just a puppet for the religious theocracy which is whats fueling this war to begin with.
The point is that everyone would be more willing to act peacefully is a two state solution existed and nations weren't posturing with their weapons and armies so much. You'd be surprised how far a little compassion and kindness will go, try it on your "enemies" next time you get into a confrontation.
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Why do we give such a @#%^ about Israel?
Mostly religion but I'll throw in some racism and bigotry too.
Obama's so swell, he bought a bunch of reporters a burger for lunch at a local burger shop. In other news, Jim Moran is sick of seeing erectile dysfunction ads. He doesn't want his grandkids to wonder what it is (but explaining a stubbed *****-shaped character on Yo Gabba Gabba is cool beans).
So Obama's nice to journalists and a democrat wants to ban TV ads for erectile dysfunction. What does it all mean!? Oh wait, were we talking about the Middle East? Or how Obama is bad? I'm so confused...
So Obama's nice to journalists and a democrat wants to ban TV ads for erectile dysfunction. What does it all mean!? Oh wait, were we talking about the Middle East? Or how Obama is bad? I'm so confused...
AshOnMyTomatoes wrote:
hangtennow wrote:
Souls,
You're crazy. Obama is capitulating to terrorists. That's all.
Tell me again whether Iran and the other muslim nations there are willing to recognize Israels right to be a nation.
You're crazy. Obama is capitulating to terrorists. That's all.
Tell me again whether Iran and the other muslim nations there are willing to recognize Israels right to be a nation.
Because we helped establish them there and they are one of our staunchest allies in the region?
It may be more to do with showing the world that we are not the anti-semitic Jew-haters that zee Germans and the Muzzies were/are. I don't necessarily agree with the political implications of such, but the logistics are definitely favorable.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
Israel is like that friend you keep around cause they yell "Forks & Knives, baby!" and do all kinds of stupid shit that keeps things interesting, but you don't want to be seen with them in public and try to make it seem like you're attempting to calm them down when you are.
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Posted: May 07 2009 at 9:34 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Wrong, wrong, and wrong. You have to understand the culture in the ME to know just how wrong this statement is. Radical muslims view kindness as weakness.
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Radical muslims view kindness as weakness.
Yes, because we're American, and everyone else is a radical muslim.
Ryneguy wrote:
Obama's so swell, he bought a bunch of reporters a burger for lunch at a local burger shop.
hangtennow wrote:
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You'd be surprised how far a little compassion and kindness will go, try it on your "enemies" next time you get into a confrontation.
Wrong, wrong, and wrong. You have to understand the culture in the ME to know just how wrong this statement is. Radical muslims view kindness as weakness.
So do radical rednecks. What's your point?
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
Samira wrote:
hangtennow wrote:
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You'd be surprised how far a little compassion and kindness will go, try it on your "enemies" next time you get into a confrontation.
Wrong, wrong, and wrong. You have to understand the culture in the ME to know just how wrong this statement is. Radical muslims view kindness as weakness.
So do radical rednecks. What's your point?
I hope your favoured burger joint isn't as horribly overrated as the mona lisa was. Then again... I was 11
Ain't that just nice?
Edited, May 7th 2009 1:56pm by Pensive
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As the stunned lunch crowd looked on and took pictures with their cellphones, Obama and Biden waited their turn in line. The guy ahead of them offered to let them cut. Obama declined.
Ain't that just nice?
Edited, May 7th 2009 1:56pm by Pensive
Mindel wrote:
Listen the fuck up, you warbling @#%^er. You do not-- DO NOT-- refer to Ray's Hell Burger as "a local burger shop." That's like calling the Mona Lisa "a painting of some broad." Show some fucking respect. 
If I were from that area, I'd show some fucking respect. I'm not, so therefore I know nothing of the place, other than the fact that they serve burgers and they're local to the DC area. And Lisa Gherardini was pretty fugly, if you ask me.
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I guess you've never heard of southern hospitality.
Is that where we pretend to have goodwill for everybody as long as they stay in their place?
Isn't samira from the south originally anyway? I recall something along that line.
The middle eastern world views hospitality as one of the most important things. Welcome to a world you know nothing about.
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hangtennow wrote:
Xarus,
As long as you don't have a beer.
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The middle eastern world views hospitality as one of the most important things.
As long as you don't have a beer.
hangtennow wrote:
Ash,
That and they tend to cut the heads off people they don't like.
That and they tend to cut the heads off people they don't like.
hangtennow wrote:
Xarus,
As long as you don't have a beer.
p.s. you're insane. Try visiting a muslim controlled country if you're a white american christian and talk to me about hospitality.
Edited, May 7th 2009 3:05pm by hangtennow
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The middle eastern world views hospitality as one of the most important things.
As long as you don't have a beer.
p.s. you're insane. Try visiting a muslim controlled country if you're a white american christian and talk to me about hospitality.
Edited, May 7th 2009 3:05pm by hangtennow
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