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#1 May 06 2009 at 3:31 PM Rating: Sub-Default
What a surprise. Now that W's not there to keep them in their caves hiding they've moved out and are now right on the doorstep of Pakistan. Wonder if Obama is going to able to talk his way out of this one. What the h*ll am I saying he won't have to; he'll just use the govn to buy the newspapers and ignore the issue completely.

Man you libs sure know how to pick cowardly presidents.

#2 May 06 2009 at 3:44 PM Rating: Good
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Ignoring, of course, that this very same thing was ongoing for much of Bush's presidency, and that his main solution to fixing it was to just bomb them from over the border and ignore international law.
#3 May 06 2009 at 3:51 PM Rating: Excellent
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What a surprise. Now that W's not there to keep them in their caves hiding they've moved out and are now right on the doorstep of Pakistan.
*Yawn* Get in line. I've been ******** about Pakistan since 2001.
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#4 May 06 2009 at 4:11 PM Rating: Excellent
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What a surprise. Now that W's not there to keep them in their caves hiding they've moved out and are now right on the doorstep of Pakistan.


They've been in Pakistan for 30 years. Did you mean Islamabad? They've steadily pushed closer and closer to Islamabad for 10 years. Bush diverted resources from Afghanistan to Iraq, and shoveled money into Pakistan. What this did was allow the Taliban to restructure, infiltrate the Pakistani military, and spend our money on weapons. They celebrate him as a hero, not joking at all.

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#5 May 06 2009 at 4:29 PM Rating: Good
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hangtennow wrote:
What a surprise. Now that W's not there to keep them in their caves hiding they've moved out and are now right on the doorstep of Pakistan. Wonder if Obama is going to able to talk his way out of this one. What the h*ll am I saying he won't have to; he'll just use the govn to buy the newspapers and ignore the issue completely.

Man you libs sure know how to pick cowardly presidents.



Welcome to an issue that was prevalent before Obama was even in office.
#6 May 06 2009 at 4:30 PM Rating: Good
I don't think "eyes" is the right term here. If I eat the cake, I am not eyeing it.
#7 May 06 2009 at 8:41 PM Rating: Excellent
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I don't think "eyes" is the right term here. If I eat the cake, I am not eyeing it.

You are if you also eat some eyes.

#8 May 06 2009 at 10:07 PM Rating: Good
At least Obama has the balls to actually hit the Taliban in Pakistan.

And considering the size of W's balls, that's saying a lot.
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#9 May 07 2009 at 6:10 AM Rating: Good
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hangtennow wrote:
What a surprise. Now that W's not there to keep them in their caves hiding they've moved out and are now right on the doorstep of Pakistan. Wonder if Obama is going to able to talk his way out of this one. What the h*ll am I saying he won't have to; he'll just use the govn to buy the newspapers and ignore the issue completely.

Man you libs sure know how to pick cowardly presidents.


Why didn't we get rid of the Taliban altogether after they were found to be aiding and abetting the group that attacked the United States? Oh, that's right, Dubya sent our military through the wringer in Iraq for no good reason. Why do you hate America? Why do you hate our troops?

Maybe this was the plan all along; leave the organization's foundation intact and let them re-form to give leverage and credence to the administration's xenophobic scare tactics. But that may be giving them too much credit. I think it was more a matter of ignorance and incompetence.
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#10REDACTED, Posted: May 07 2009 at 6:32 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Majivo,
#11 May 07 2009 at 6:43 AM Rating: Excellent
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Ignoring, of course, that this very same thing was ongoing for much of Bush's presidency, and that his main solution to fixing it was to just bomb them from over the border and ignore international law.


Seemed to work at keeping them in their holes and away from nuclear facilities.


Debo,

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Why didn't we get rid of the Taliban altogether after they were found to be aiding and abetting the group that attacked the United States? Oh, that's right, Dubya sent our military through the wringer in Iraq for no good reason. Why do you hate America? Why do you hate our troops?


Why do you love Saddam?



I think it's time to reinstate my filter. You truly are an idiot.

Will someone please rate me up so I'm not the same colour as this buffoon, for the love of god!
#12REDACTED, Posted: May 07 2009 at 6:45 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Archy,
#13 May 07 2009 at 7:36 AM Rating: Decent
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I don't love Saddam. He just was not as important to deal with as the organization that helped attack us on our own ground.

But hey, I understand that you put political agendas over the safety of the American people.
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Seemed to work at keeping them in their holes and away from nuclear facilities
Smiley: laugh

Bush gave the Taliban six free years to regroup and build new strength. It was being reported years ago that Afghanistan was increasingly under Taliban control once you left Kabul city limits.

"Oh, no! You just don't hear about all the good in Afghanistan! It's just that people only hear about all the bad in Iraq -- Afghanistan is on the rise! They had an election!! This changes everything!"

I noted years ago that Pakistan had little interest in truly fighting against the Taliban. I noted years ago that it was a shameful joke that we'd smile and nod as Pakistani agents sold nuclear weapon secrets to Iran, Syria and N. Korea and received house arrest for it. And we continue to send big bags of money to Pakistan to thank them for their help.

"Oh, no! Pakistan is our ally! We can't pressure them! We have to let them figure this out on their own and we can't say anything or else the Taliban will take over! OMG!! Obama said he'd attack terrorists in Pakistan! What a bad, BAD move! That's just like invading and we can't touch those terrorists without Pakistan's permission! Oh, look -- Pakistan just gave the Taliban control over a porous border region*. Let's clap our hands at this smart move by Pakistan!"

Yeah. Obviously it was Obama's weakness that caused this problem Smiley: rolleyes



*Funny, I don't recall any of the Bushies crying "Appeasement!" and making snide Chamberlain references when our good ally Pakistan did this...
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#15REDACTED, Posted: May 07 2009 at 7:42 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Jophed,
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I am saying his approach to radical islam is emboldening these terrorists
They've been emboldened. There's nothing new here. You're just seeing the crowning result of Bush emboldening terrorists for the last five-six years. I hope you enjoy it.
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they would never have dreamed under W.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Oh my God... really.

Yeah, like reclaiming much of Afghanistan and officially planting their flags in Pakistan with Pakistan's consent and America's smiling silence. Oh, sure... they were just terrified of Bush Smiley: laugh
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The only reason these terrorists are coming out again
They never, ever left.

Edited, May 7th 2009 10:52am by Jophiel
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#17 May 07 2009 at 8:03 AM Rating: Good
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They never, ever left.


Didn't you hear him? They were in caves, man. Caves...
#18 May 07 2009 at 9:27 AM Rating: Excellent
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They never, ever left.


Didn't you hear him? They were in caves, man. Caves...


Solution! Send grues into the caves.

Oh wait, they're out of them now. Dammit...
#19REDACTED, Posted: May 07 2009 at 9:31 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Jophed,
#20 May 07 2009 at 9:33 AM Rating: Good
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hangtennow wrote:
Jophed,

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You're just seeing the crowning result of Bush emboldening terrorists for the last five-six years. I hope you enjoy it.


Actually we're watching the results of a president these terrorists believe to be weak. They knew if they tried this crap under W that meant there would be h*ll to pay. They don't respect Obama enough to give a crap what he might do because chances are all he'll do is talk.





Hi. How do you explain 911? That was pretty bold. W was prez.
#21REDACTED, Posted: May 07 2009 at 9:36 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) boon,
#22 May 07 2009 at 9:37 AM Rating: Good
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Actually we're watching the results of a president these terrorists believe to be weak.


Apprently this all started in the last 5 months.

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They knew if they tried this crap under W that meant there would be h*ll to pay.


It surprises me that even though you think you're full of intelligent information, you fail to see that this attitude is what gets people/countries/etc. into all kinds of deep shit and it's typically not correct to "shoot first, ask questions later".

...


Wait wait wait, so now:

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Now they're back and testing us again.


So it's ok that they did this with W, but not Obama? Do you realize you just shot yourself in the foot? Seriously...

Edited, May 7th 2009 1:39pm by Ryneguy
#23 May 07 2009 at 9:38 AM Rating: Good
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hangtennow wrote:
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Hi. How do you explain 911? That was pretty bold. W was prez.


They wanted to see if W would do anything. It was a test. Since then we've bloodied their nose and sent them running. Now they're back and testing us again.

Pretty amazing that, for this example, you can compress the largest attack on US soil in decades down to "they were testing us."
#24 May 07 2009 at 9:41 AM Rating: Good
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hangtennow wrote:
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Hi. How do you explain 911? That was pretty bold. W was prez.


They wanted to see if W would do anything. It was a test. Since then we've bloodied their nose and sent them running. Now they're back and testing us again.

Pretty amazing that, for this example, you can compress the largest attack on US soil in decades down to "they were testing us."


LOL Next time you talk to the Taliban and the terrorists hangten, let them know I prefer their tests be conducted on foreign soil.
#25REDACTED, Posted: May 07 2009 at 9:46 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ryne,
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Actually we're watching the results of a president these terrorists believe to be weak. They knew if they tried this crap under W that meant there would be h*ll to pay.
Right. That's why the Taliban fought Pakistan to an agreement allowing the Taliban to take control of Waziristan and a Pakistani withdrawl back in April '08. That's why the Taliban fought Pakistan into giving them control of the Swat Valley and allowing them to impose Sharia law there a month later.

Oh yeah, they were really afraid of Bush. Who wouldn't be scared of a president who sits and watches while you claim control over large swaths of the Pakistan/Afghan border?

Really, what "crap" do you think they were afraid to try because of Bush? They took control of thousands of square miles of Pakistan while Bush was president. Yeah... real scared.
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They don't respect Obama enough to give a crap what he might do because chances are all he'll do is talk
They didn't respect Bush because they watched for years as Bush rewarded jack-off behavior from Pakistan with big sacks of cash. How scared are they going to be of a guy who gives Pakistan a hug and a smile for selling nuclear secrets to the "Axis of Evil"?

Edited, May 7th 2009 12:51pm by Jophiel
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