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#1 May 01 2009 at 6:25 AM Rating: Default
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According to current and former government officials, the CIA's secret waterboarding program was designed and assured to be safe by two well-paid psychologists now working out of an unmarked office building in Spokane, Washington.


Bruce Jessen and Jim Mitchell, former military officers, together founded Mitchell Jessen and Associates.


Glad to know we're showing the terrorists what's being done to them so they can prepare in the eventuality that they're captured.

Wonder if the same people who railed on and on about Plame are going to raise the same fuss over this?


http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=7471217&page=1


On a side note I don't think there's much of a chance of a terrorist attack under Obama. He's far more valuable to them as is.


#2 May 01 2009 at 6:34 AM Rating: Good
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Your special forces soldiers are trained to resist talking after waterboarding, and other torture techniques used in Gitmo, because your enemies were already using them.
#3 May 01 2009 at 6:43 AM Rating: Default
Nice apology...btw Plame was still not a undercover operative.

#4 May 01 2009 at 6:55 AM Rating: Decent
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Who rates this guy up?
#5 May 01 2009 at 6:56 AM Rating: Good
zepoodle wrote:
Who rates this guy up?


A couple of us, so as to keep him from going unrated so that we can understand a conversation.
#6 May 01 2009 at 7:03 AM Rating: Excellent
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
zepoodle wrote:
Who rates this guy up?


A couple of us, so as to keep him from going unrated so that we can understand a conversation.

Yup.

Most of the time I when I occasionally rate up subdefaulted people that I don't agree with, it's so that "the other side" can be aired and heard.

Occasionally I rate up a subdefaulted post/OP out of sheer gleeful malice. So that more people can see the outrageous ...outrage. And pile on.
#7 May 01 2009 at 7:06 AM Rating: Excellent
hangtennow wrote:
Glad to know we're showing the terrorists what's being done to them so they can prepare in the eventuality that they're captured.


I'm sure that they already knew. Waterboarding isn't a technique that just sprung up into creation, it's been used for centuries.
#8 May 01 2009 at 7:08 AM Rating: Default
Tulip,

and you like me.

#9 May 01 2009 at 7:10 AM Rating: Default
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I'm sure that they already knew. Waterboarding isn't a technique that just sprung up into creation, it's been used for centuries.


and the entire world knew Plame was in the cia yet that didn't stop that "scandal" from being front page news for how many months?

#10 May 01 2009 at 7:12 AM Rating: Excellent
hangtennow wrote:
and the entire world knew Plame was in the cia yet that didn't stop that "scandal" from being front page news for how many months?



How in the fuck is that even relevant to the centuries long use of Waterboarding by almost every country with enemies of the state?
#11 May 01 2009 at 7:12 AM Rating: Decent
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hangtennow wrote:
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I'm sure that they already knew. Waterboarding isn't a technique that just sprung up into creation, it's been used for centuries.


and the entire world knew Plame was in the cia yet that didn't stop that "scandal" from being front page news for how many months?
Well yeah, that's kinda what outing someone in the CIA would do.
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I'm not getting my news from anywhere Joph.
#12 May 01 2009 at 7:15 AM Rating: Default
bsphil,

Didn't know if you knew this or not but you can't out somebody whose not undercover to begin with.

#13 May 01 2009 at 7:16 AM Rating: Default
kael,

Apparently you're not familiar with the term "double standard".

#14 May 01 2009 at 7:19 AM Rating: Decent
hangyourself,

Apparently you're not familiar with the term "relevance".
#15 May 01 2009 at 7:22 AM Rating: Excellent
hangtennow wrote:
Tulip,

and you like me.



Actually, when you're not throwing around slurs or wishing an entire city bombed, you're not so bad.
#16 May 01 2009 at 7:23 AM Rating: Decent
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hangtennow wrote:
bsphil,

Didn't know if you knew this or not but you can't out somebody whose not undercover to begin with.
Plugging your ears and saying she wasn't really undercover doesn't make it true, shocking as that may seem. If you want to take this a step further, people around the globe have known the US did waterboarding for years, so why is this a scandal? Not to mention, Obama has now defined waterboarding as torture and will not authorize it anyway. I'm really at a loss for what you're trying to argue for. Even for you, this is pretty thin.

By the by, farthest back I know of people using waterboarding is the Spanish Inquisition in the 1400s. It's not new.
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If no one debated with me, then I wouldn't post here anymore.
Take the hint guys, please take the hint.
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I'm not getting my news from anywhere Joph.
#17 May 01 2009 at 7:23 AM Rating: Default
Kael,

Just so you recognize the next time the Dems moan and b*tch about something like this.


#18 May 01 2009 at 7:24 AM Rating: Excellent
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
hangtennow wrote:
Tulip,

and you like me.



Actually, when you're not throwing around slurs or wishing an entire city bombed, you're not so bad.



I was quiet surprised by the Gardening post. I found myself rating you up without realizing it.
#19 May 01 2009 at 7:26 AM Rating: Excellent
The One and Only toohotforu wrote:
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
hangtennow wrote:
Tulip,

and you like me.



Actually, when you're not throwing around slurs or wishing an entire city bombed, you're not so bad.



I was quiet surprised by the Gardening post. I found myself rating you up without realizing it.


Wait... me or him? Am I really that bad? Smiley: frown
#20 May 01 2009 at 7:26 AM Rating: Decent
bsphil,

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Obama has now defined waterboarding as torture and will not authorize it anyway


And Obama has now made our country a weaker place for it. But what does he care about national defense, it's not like the terrorists are going to attack when if they simply sit back they can wait until he's weakened the country to the point of being susceptible to another 911 in the first term of the next GOP president and all you whacked out libs can blame it on him; EXACTLY LIKE CLINTON DID!

#21 May 01 2009 at 7:26 AM Rating: Excellent
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
hangtennow wrote:
Tulip,

and you like me.



Actually, when you're not throwing around slurs or wishing an entire city bombed, you're not so bad.
So never?
#22 May 01 2009 at 7:27 AM Rating: Excellent
AshOnMyTomatoes wrote:
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
hangtennow wrote:
Tulip,

and you like me.



Actually, when you're not throwing around slurs or wishing an entire city bombed, you're not so bad.
So never?


Every once in a while he makes an amusing post. Or a gardening post. Or one about sports, I think...
#23 May 01 2009 at 7:28 AM Rating: Decent
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hangtennow wrote:
bsphil,

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Obama has now defined waterboarding as torture and will not authorize it anyway


And Obama has now made our country a weaker place for it. But what does he care about national defense, it's not like the terrorists are going to attack when if they simply sit back they can wait until he's weakened the country to the point of being susceptible to another 911 in the first term of the next GOP president and all you whacked out libs can blame it on him; EXACTLY LIKE CLINTON DID!

Yeah, not being asSholes to prisoners of war really makes it easier for them to fly planes at us. Smiley: oyvey

Edited, May 1st 2009 10:28am by AshOnMyTomatoes
#24 May 01 2009 at 7:36 AM Rating: Decent
hangtennow wrote:
Kael,

Just so you recognize the next time the Dems moan and b*tch about something like this.


Recognize what?

If you're going to rail on something, can you at least let the rest of us know what your one point of topic is?
#25 May 01 2009 at 7:37 AM Rating: Excellent
Belkira the Tulip wrote:


Wait... me or him? Am I really that bad? Smiley: frown


Sorry meant him. I like you Belkira, for what thats worth.
#26 May 01 2009 at 7:38 AM Rating: Decent
Ash,

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Yeah, not being ******** to prisoners of war really makes it easier for them to fly planes at us.


You realize waterboarding saved a major US building in Ca right?

Being as*holes to prisoners? Is that anything like when you take a P.O.W. and you snap his neck after you torture him so he don't have to go through life with a colostomy bag?


Wonder if those muzzies who like to cut the heads off their prisoners would be better disposed towards prisoners now that they know we won't be waterboarding anymore?

Do you actually think before you say some of the stupid sh*t spewing from your comp?


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