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#52 Apr 29 2009 at 10:08 AM Rating: Excellent
hangtennow wrote:
I am scared of my own sexuality though. Women throw themselves at me left and right and I sleep with more women than I care to confess. I know I have problems with this lustful nature.


So... it's not ok for women to have sex for money because it degrades them, but it's perfectly acceptable for you to take advantage of them for free?

Interesting theories you've got there, champ.

Is it hard to live life so full of contradiction that it's hard to write more than one or two sentences without making yourself look like a hypocrite?

Edited, Apr 29th 2009 1:08pm by Belkira
#53 Apr 29 2009 at 10:10 AM Rating: Excellent
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I also like hearing about all the "radical right" without so much of a whisper about the radical left crazies like Pelosi and Reid.
Pelosi and Reid aren't trying to drive moderate Democrats out of the party. The Democratic leadership recognized a couple cycles ago that the way you win Republican or swing districts/states isn't by running "radical left crazies" but by running moderate/centrist types such as the Blue Dog Democrats. This gave them a 2006 win and helped to expand their lead in 2008. The Club For Growth wing of the GOP is instead engaged in some party cleansing where anyone who isn't a strict conservative needs to get the hell out and convinced that once the party's been purged, all the voters will come running to them.

Good luck with that.
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The reason the Dems power is increasing is because the govn is buying support, plain and simple. You know this stimulus package is nothing more than a huge democrat vote of registration drive don't you?
That's why the Democrats flipped the balance of power at the 2006 midterms. Right.

Edited, Apr 29th 2009 1:11pm by Jophiel
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#54 Apr 29 2009 at 10:13 AM Rating: Good
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I also like hearing about all the "radical right" without so much of a whisper about the radical left crazies like Pelosi and Reid. Tell me the last time they crossed the isle? As a matter of fact show me the last time any key democrat crossed the isle on a major issue?

The reason the Dems power is increasing is because the govn is buying support, plain and simple. You know this stimulus package is nothing more than a huge democrat vote of registration drive don't you?

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It is true that being a Republican moderate sometimes feels like being a cast member of “Survivor” — you are presented with multiple challenges, and you often get the distinct feeling that you’re no longer welcome in the tribe. But it is truly a dangerous signal that a Republican senator of nearly three decades no longer felt able to remain in the party.


Holy moley, Senator Snowe was right!
#55 Apr 29 2009 at 10:15 AM Rating: Good
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You know this stimulus package is nothing more than a huge democrat vote of registration drive don't you?


Actually, its not. The Dems aren't having to bribe people to vote Democrat. Like Spector, the last sane remnants of the Republican party are fleeing like rats off a sinking ship. The choices are Independent or Dem, and hey, the Dems can't possibly do any worse than the Republicans did over the last eight years.

And Belkira, I agree that the living mess of hypocritical contraditions that is hangtennow is almost pathetic to read about. I've never seen someone so uncomfortable in his own skin having to resort to taking it out on everyone else just to be able to sleep at night.
#56 Apr 29 2009 at 11:04 AM Rating: Default
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Actually, its not. The Dems aren't having to bribe people to vote Democrat


That's exactly what they're doing. They're printing money we don't have to give govn jobs to people who aren't succeeding in the private sector. That's called buying votes.


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Dems can't possibly do any worse than the Republicans did over the last eight years



This just in the economy is doing much worse than it had been, even after the passing of the oh so great stimulus package, and it's going to get a lot worse. If you people think govn controlling the private sector is going to stimulate the economy you're sorely mistaken. I'm just biding my time and saving every red cent so that when the economies at it's lowest i'll be positioned to take full advantage.


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I've never seen someone so uncomfortable in his own skin having to resort to taking it out on everyone else just to be able to sleep at night.



Uncomfortable in my own skin? Is this a slam against health conscience people who strive to improve their physical condition on a daily basis? I love who I am and what I represent. What I don't love is the fact that most people have neither the drive nor inclination to succeed without begging the govn for help at the expense of their neighbor.

Have you considered that someone who was less secure in who they were and what they're about would have long since attempted to change his stripes after a continual barrage of insults and attacks over the course of years?

We all have issues, mine happens to be an afinity for pretty young (college) girls; let he who is without sin cast the first stone. What's sad is what you allow you're govn to do to people is behaviour you would never in a million years consider doing yourself. I mean forcing the govn to pay for healthcare...wtf is that?






#57 Apr 29 2009 at 11:12 AM Rating: Excellent
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They're printing money we don't have to give govn jobs to people who aren't succeeding in the private sector.


But people have already voted for Dems, so this doesn't make any sense.

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I mean forcing the govn to pay for healthcare...wtf is that?


Hey, it works in the Netherlands. People live longer and they're happier there.
#58 Apr 29 2009 at 11:14 AM Rating: Default
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Hey, it works in the Netherlands. People live longer and they're happier there.


Kind of goes against the concept of freedom to have your neighbor fund your healthcare dontcha think?

#59 Apr 29 2009 at 3:31 PM Rating: Decent
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I mean forcing the govn to pay for healthcare...wtf is that?


Hey, it works in the Netherlands. People live longer and they're happier there.


And England, Japan, Germany...just about every first world economy. It is the American system to which most people say "wtf?" It is both phenomenally expensive and craptacular for a very large fraction of the population, average for the others.

There is no other viable alternative to healthcare in operation currently in the world. There are theories but it is questionable how much actual money we would save. Doing nothing about heath care (you know, the Bush plan: just say "heck of a job" and move on) is basically economic suicide.

Healthcare is far too important to leave to some untested theory. Beyond that, there are serious moral and legal concerns with the proposed alternative plans which make them exceptionally unlikely to pass. Thus there is only one realistic way forward.
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In the "Like Rain On Your Wedding Day" file, the NRSC is running robocalls in Pennsylvania linking Arlen Specter to President Bush Smiley: laugh
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#61 Apr 29 2009 at 4:17 PM Rating: Good
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Kind of goes against the concept of freedom to have your neighbor fund your healthcare dontcha think?


Hmm. I'm going to go with "no, I'm not a drooling moron who doesn't understand what the word 'freedom' means". Yup.


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#62 Apr 29 2009 at 4:21 PM Rating: Decent
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In the "Like Rain On Your Wedding Day" file, the NRSC is running robocalls in Pennsylvania linking Arlen Specter to President Bush


Steele better be offering little boys and oxy to every moderate Republican in the Northeast to run in the primary. Toomey gets slaughtered in the General against anyone who isn't fucking a sheep in their campaign ads. On the other hand, I guess he has the prospect of an exciting three way deal if Specter looses the Dem primary to, oh...Bob Casey or whomever, where they might be able to steal the seat with a plurality.

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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.

#63 Apr 29 2009 at 6:02 PM Rating: Excellent
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Kind of goes against the concept of freedom to have your neighbor fund your healthcare dontcha think?


It's repugnant for a good christian to have to imagine a situation where a private citizen with a lot of money should not pay for the healthcare of the less fortunate. That person should never have to steal money from you in the first place, because of all of the charity you would be thrusting upon him.

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Uncomfortable in my own skin? Is this a slam against health conscience people who strive to improve their physical condition on a daily basis?


It means that you're more terrified of ***** than anna, and probably more terrified of vaginas than nixnot as well.

Edited, Apr 29th 2009 10:05pm by Pensive
#64 Apr 29 2009 at 6:08 PM Rating: Good
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Kind of goes against the concept of freedom to have your neighbor fund your healthcare dontcha think?


Freedom is hardly an end in itself. It's just so amazingly linked with pleasure that people conflate the two.

The answer to your question is negative in any case, so the point is moot.
#65 Apr 30 2009 at 6:03 AM Rating: Default
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It's repugnant for a good christian to have to imagine a situation where a private citizen with a lot of money should not pay for the healthcare of the less fortunate.


There's a difference between charity and having the govn stick a gun in my face and forcing me to give my hard earned money to someone "less foruntate". As if fortune, not hard work, had anything to do with my success.

When I give away vegetables from my garden that's cool. When the govn comes in and takes vegetables from my garden that's stealing.

Like I've said most of you would never dream of actually personally doing the things you think it's ok for the govn to do based on some twisted sense of "fairness"





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"no, I'm not a drooling moron who doesn't understand what the word 'freedom' means".


You sure about that?





#66 Apr 30 2009 at 6:11 AM Rating: Excellent
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When the govn comes in and takes vegetables from my garden that's stealing.
No, that's taxation. You know what the rules are for living in the country. They're not secret rules. You make the choice to live here, under those rules. If you dislike the rules, there is a means of changing them. They may never get changed to how you want them but that's different from there being no way to change them. If it comes down to it, you're able to leave this land and its rules and go find another land with other rules more to your liking -- the US doesn't have any iron curtains or brick walls keeping its citizens inside.

But none of that makes it "stealing".
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#67 Apr 30 2009 at 6:13 AM Rating: Excellent
It's also kind of hard to have any kind of freedom at all if your kid comes down with leukemia and your privately purchased healthcare plan denies your kid coverage, forcing you to sell your house to pay medical costs and eventually landing you in debtors prison.

#68 Apr 30 2009 at 10:25 AM Rating: Good
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Man this is a clumsy analogy ...

I like that guy more and more everyday, he always says something to amuse me.
#69 Apr 30 2009 at 11:12 AM Rating: Default
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It's also kind of hard to have any kind of freedom at all if your kid comes down with leukemia and your privately purchased healthcare plan denies your kid coverage, forcing you to sell your house to pay medical costs and eventually landing you in debtors prison.


So because of a turn of bad luck you think that justifies forcing someone you deem to be wealthy, at the point of a gun, to make things better?

Bad things do happen. That's life. The key is making people responsible for themselves. Once a person is able to take care of themselves they will naturally want to help their neighbor.



#70 Apr 30 2009 at 11:29 AM Rating: Good
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So because of a turn of bad luck you think that justifies forcing someone you deem to be wealthy, at the point of a gun, to make things better?

Bad things do happen. That's life. The key is making people responsible for themselves. Once a person is able to take care of themselves they will naturally want to help their neighbor.


I think that there's nothing at all wrong with asking everyone (not just the wealthy) to help out those less fortunate in our country via paying in taxes.

Why is this a better option than waiting and hoping that someone will be kind enough to "help their neighbor?" Because not everyone will be able to benefit from that sort of charity. This way, it's organized, centralized, and able to reach everyone who needs it.

Edited, Apr 30th 2009 2:30pm by Belkira
#71 Apr 30 2009 at 11:35 AM Rating: Default
Tulip,

There's a difference between asking and forcing.

#72 Apr 30 2009 at 11:41 AM Rating: Good
hangtennow wrote:
Tulip,

There's a difference between asking and forcing.


Tough ****** I guess. I don't like a lot of the things my taxes go towards. Not much I can do about that, though. The war in Iraq still needs to be funded. Personally, I'd rather see every single person in America have healthcare than have Saddam hanged.
#73 Apr 30 2009 at 11:48 AM Rating: Default
Tulip,

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I'd rather see every single person in America have healthcare than have Saddam hanged.


I'd rather see every single fat person loose 100lbs than force healthy people to pay for people who have made poor life choices.

#74 Apr 30 2009 at 11:53 AM Rating: Excellent
hangtennow wrote:
Tulip,

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I'd rather see every single person in America have healthcare than have Saddam hanged.


I'd rather see every single fat person loose 100lbs than force healthy people to pay for people who have made poor life choices.


I'd rather see you stop (supposedly) having sex with multiple women, thus creating the potential for contracting and spreading an STD and (1) once again becoming a walking contridiction, given your predaliction for wanting to keep homosexuals from being married is because you mistakenly believe they are more likely to catch and spread an STD when your own behavior is just as bad, if not worse, and (2) posing just as much of a risk of forcing other people to pay for your poor life choices.

I'm not sure how you live your life being so hypocritical so much of the time.

#75 Apr 30 2009 at 1:04 PM Rating: Default
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I'd rather see you stop (supposedly) having sex with multiple women


At least not at the same time. Of course if I catch an std you would be more than willing to foot the bill for my recovery and care right?

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given your predaliction for wanting to keep homosexuals from being married is because you mistakenly believe they are more likely to catch and spread an STD when your own behavior is just as bad


You really don't understand my position on homosexuality after all this time.

#76 Apr 30 2009 at 1:20 PM Rating: Excellent
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At least not at the same time. Of course if I catch an std you would be more than willing to foot the bill for my recovery and care right?


Not personally, but yes, I'd be fine with my tax dollars going towards your care. I'm nice like that.

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You really don't understand my position on homosexuality after all this time.


I understand that you've said over and over that homosexuals are more likely to contract an STD, which is false by the way. Promiscuous people are more likely to contract an STD, whether they be homosexual or heterosexual.

Edited, Apr 30th 2009 4:20pm by Belkira
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