CNN is reporting that Arlen Specter is switching to the Democrats. Once Franken finishes his court battle, that'll be 60 Democrats in the Senate caucus.
Not that I expect Specter to be a partyline liberal democrat but this is... wow. Unexpected.
Edited, Apr 28th 2009 11:16am by Jophiel
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Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
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Posted: Apr 28 2009 at 8:18 AM, Rating: Unrated, (Expand Post) Franken is going to loose.
Yeah, I just saw that. I'm kinda dumbfounded, honestly; but then, I haven't really thought about Specter's politics in years.
He has to be pretty close to the end of his career. Probably just wants to get some pet projects pushed through/be on a relevant committee, and being on the winning team is how to do that.
He has to be pretty close to the end of his career. Probably just wants to get some pet projects pushed through/be on a relevant committee, and being on the winning team is how to do that.
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hangtennow wrote:
Franken is going to loose.
You're scared, aren't you?
It's ok...you can cry.
hangtennow wrote:
Franken is going to loose....Footloose. Kick off your Sunday shoes.
hangtennow wrote:
Franken is going to loose.
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
I'll readily admit that I'm parroting other sources, not being an expert in Pennsylvania politics:
Specter is facing a tough primary battle against Somefirstname Toomey, a hard-line conservative. Pennsylvania has a closed primary system and many moderate Republicans changed party identification to Independent/Democratic for the presidental primaries. So the bulk of who's left to vote in the in Republican Senate primary is harder-right party members. Specter's been getting pressure to change his ways and appeal to the Right to have any chance of winning the primary.
As a side note, most folks I've heard with an opinion think that Toomey would lose the general Senate race since he has little appeal to moderate voters.
Specter is liked among independents & moderate democrats. He could potentially win a Democratic primary and the general. He won't win the Republican primary.
Specter is facing a tough primary battle against Somefirstname Toomey, a hard-line conservative. Pennsylvania has a closed primary system and many moderate Republicans changed party identification to Independent/Democratic for the presidental primaries. So the bulk of who's left to vote in the in Republican Senate primary is harder-right party members. Specter's been getting pressure to change his ways and appeal to the Right to have any chance of winning the primary.
As a side note, most folks I've heard with an opinion think that Toomey would lose the general Senate race since he has little appeal to moderate voters.
Specter is liked among independents & moderate democrats. He could potentially win a Democratic primary and the general. He won't win the Republican primary.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
hangtennow wrote:
Franken is going to loose.
For someone that always prattles on about how superior his education was, you certainly are an ignorant fUck.
The word is "lose". But he'll win.
This'll be a fun day to check out the Freeper boards 
Edit: It's official, by the way.
Edited, Apr 28th 2009 11:38am by Jophiel
Edit: It's official, by the way.
Edited, Apr 28th 2009 11:38am by Jophiel
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophiel wrote:
This'll be a fun day to check out the Freeper boards
AshOnMyTomatoes wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
This'll be a fun day to check out the Freeper boards
Free Republic board. Rabid emo Pubbies.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
AshOnMyTomatoes wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
This'll be a fun day to check out the Freeper boards
Not that there's not liberal versions of the same but those aren't as much fun in times like this.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Social conservatives, that is. Fiscal conservatives, I dunno where they go. Straight into a bottle for the past decade I'd imagine.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
Samira wrote:
Social conservatives, that is.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Holy hell, unexpected!
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Jophiel wrote:
AshOnMyTomatoes wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
This'll be a fun day to check out the Freeper boards
Not that there's not liberal versions of the same but those aren't as much fun in times like this.
AshOnMyTomatoes wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
AshOnMyTomatoes wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
This'll be a fun day to check out the Freeper boards
Not that there's not liberal versions of the same but those aren't as much fun in times like this.
I hope I'm not viewed like that by people who don't share my opinions.
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
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Franken is going to loose.
From what I've been reading, it really does look like he's going to win.
Also, learn to spell.
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Elinda wrote:
AshOnMyTomatoes wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
AshOnMyTomatoes wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
This'll be a fun day to check out the Freeper boards
Not that there's not liberal versions of the same but those aren't as much fun in times like this.
I hope I'm not viewed like that by people who don't share my opinions.
Apparentlhy Harry Reid was told that Spector agreed to caucus with the Dems yesterday. This means that right now, Spector as a Dem is occupying Republican slated committee assignments. The Republicans will most certainly demand reassignments on those committees now, but there's rumor mongoring that the Dems will demand that Franken's win be certified and him seated as a bargaining chip for reassigning those committee spots.
The Dems already had the upper hand, but now they hold all the cards.
For the record, Spector's own constituancy is pleased as punch over his switch, based on a quickie poll.
The Dems already had the upper hand, but now they hold all the cards.
For the record, Spector's own constituancy is pleased as punch over his switch, based on a quickie poll.
The Republican party only have themselves to blame. When you have a shrinking party in disarray, calling certain Senators RINOS and marginalizing them is not the way to go.
Edited, Apr 28th 2009 5:49pm by Annabella
Edited, Apr 28th 2009 5:49pm by Annabella
Turin wrote:
Seriously, what the f*ck nature?
Meh. Not bad news, but not hugely significant. His votes on cloture or issues that I care about are unlikely to change. I'm not an expert on Pennsylvania politics, either, but this strikes me as a largely survival driven inside baseball move.
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True and I pretty much agree. Although now he'll have to balance his votes against surviving as a Democrat versus surviving as a Republican. I don't know how dramatic a shift that'll be but I assume it will be a shift.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
I'm trying to figure out exactly what phrase in the first five posts made me think "I'm on a buoy mother fUckers!"... It's not going to well.
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Posted: Apr 28 2009 at 7:22 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Spector was going to "lose" anyway. It's not surprising that someone of his character is switching to the dems.
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