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#1 Apr 25 2009 at 9:38 PM Rating: Excellent
My fiance is one of the adjuncts at the school, and he said he's not surprised one of the profs finally snapped.

http://news.google.com/news?pz=1&cf=all&ncl=1341123033

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ATHENS, Ga. (AP) — Police say three people have been killed and three others have been injured at a shooting at a community theater near the University of Georgia.

Authorities were searching Saturday for a professor in the shooting deaths.

Athens-Clarke County Police Major Mike Shockley says authorities were called to the theater about 12:30 p.m. and found three adults slain by gunfire. He says three others were injured, "possibly by ricocheting bullets."

He declined to release the identities of the victims.

Shockley says police are looking for 56-year-old George Zinkhan, a marketing professor at the school in Athens, which is about 70 miles east of Atlanta.

He says authorities do not know what triggered the shootings.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.

ATHENS, Ga. (AP) — Three people were killed Saturday at a community theater near the University of Georgia, and authorities were searching for a professor in the shooting deaths.

Athens-Clarke County Coroner Sonny Wilson said the three were shot off campus about 12:30 p.m. He did not immediately have any other details.

The school's Web site said police were looking for George Zinkhan, a marketing professor at the school in Athens, which is about 70 miles east of Atlanta.

Athens-Clarke Assistant Police Chief Alan Brown tells The Athens-Banner Herald that there is "some indication he may have had multiple weapons."

In a statement, University of Georgia President Michael F. Adams said the university community was shocked and saddened.

"Our first thoughts are for safety of the university community and for prompt apprehension of the person responsible," Adams said. "Our thoughts and prayers are with the families of all those who have been affected."


Prince Ave is on the other side of town where I live, but that means no more than a 10 minute drive around here. We also had a TON of out of towners for the Twilight Criterium this weekend, so it's still of grave concern that they have no idea where he's gone . . .
#2 Apr 25 2009 at 9:45 PM Rating: Decent
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Holy **** I'm glad I decided on state instead. The only thing you have to watch out for there is mugging and kidnapping and and.. well

Okay it's still dangerous, but at least the danger doesn't come from the university itself Smiley: grin
#3 Apr 25 2009 at 9:47 PM Rating: Good
Yeah, this happened off campus tho, at the Town & Gown Players reunion picnic. x_x

A friend of mine knew one of the injured parties, and she's in shock and says he's in even more shock since two of his friends are now dead . . . The community theater is a very tight knit group, and the wife of the professor who went off the deep end and shot her was the current president of the group . . .
#4 Apr 25 2009 at 10:00 PM Rating: Decent
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Wow I sounded a lot more callous than I meant to.

But seriously, hate when there's a shooting or some other loss of life. We had a purse snatching turn into a kidnapping a week ago or so.

Also, in before 3 page gun control thread.
#5 Apr 25 2009 at 10:31 PM Rating: Decent
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Heh. The nutty professor.

I'm a horrible person.
#6 Apr 25 2009 at 11:05 PM Rating: Good
Drama Queen.









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#7 Apr 26 2009 at 12:11 AM Rating: Good
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It's all because the Auburn War Eagles have owned their a$$ in football since...

...um, forever. That would set any Bulldawg fan off.

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#8 Apr 26 2009 at 4:38 AM Rating: Decent
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My fiance is one of the adjuncts at the school, and he said he's not surprised one of the profs finally snapped.


Why is he not surprised?
#9 Apr 26 2009 at 6:39 AM Rating: Default
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Prince Ave is on the other side of town where I live, but that means no more than a 10 minute drive around here.


Holy ****, that means your chances of getting murdered today increased from 1 in 250,000,000 to 1 in 249,999,999. Hide!

Really, who gives a fuck? When someone kills your fiance, let me know.
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#10 Apr 26 2009 at 6:58 AM Rating: Good
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Really, who gives a ****? When someone kills your fiance, let me know.


Remember when twiztid had a shooting at his school, and you reamed him for being upset about it, and then profusely appologized minutes later when you realized that it was HIS SCHOOL?

What happened differently in this case smash?
#11 Apr 26 2009 at 7:12 AM Rating: Default
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What happened differently in this case smash?


Really? You can't see the distinction? Think it through for seven of eight seconds and see if you can riddle it out all on your own.

Here are some facts that might help:

This shooting *did not* occur at the University.
This shooting *did not* occur anywhere the OP has ever been.
This shooting *did not* involve anyone the OP had ever fucking heard of before it happened.
The OP's personal connection to this shooting is greater than mine or yours by a factor so small as to be essentially non existent.

Understand, yet, moron?

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#12 Apr 26 2009 at 8:12 AM Rating: Excellent
Um, I've been to lots of plays done by the Town & Gown at the Athens Community Theater. I'm a little sad that they're canceling the remaining runs of their current production. It's a small town. Even if I didn't know the shooter or victims personally, half my Facebook page is freaking out because they DID know someone, and it's still a national headline. (One of the victims is heavily involved in the local pagan community, which is apparently how he know half my friends.)

What, so we're not supposed to discuss any kind of news story here unless we're somehow directly involved? Never mind the 11 pages on Vermont legislating gay marriage, I'm not gay and I don't live in Vermont, has no impact on me, nope nope.

Edit: Typo

Edited, Apr 26th 2009 12:14pm by catwho
#13 Apr 26 2009 at 9:22 AM Rating: Decent
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Really? You can't see the distinction? Think it through for seven of eight seconds and see if you can riddle it out all on your own.


Of course I can jesus christ. If you'd spent seven seconds of your own thinking about why I was asking that question instead of the best way to excoriate someone for fun, you might have picked up.

The differences hardly matter if the ripple through catwho's social network is large enough to affect her directly. Given how closely knit the department apparently is (according to her testimony,) the chances of it affecting her directly seem pretty @#%^ing nice. I dunno, maybe she's just a damn liar; why not ask her.

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What, so we're not supposed to discuss any kind of news story here unless we're somehow directly involved? Never mind the 11 pages on Vermont legislating gay marriage, I'm not gay and I don't live in Vermont, has no impact on me, nope nope.


Smash doesn't like it when we sensationalize murder and crime locally as anything more important than the countless babies in africa dying right now.

I agree with this principle myself. It's almost always some rancid appeal to emotion and empathy, but I don't believe he has judged this particular case correctly.

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I do believe this is the first time smash has attempted to degrade me. I might want to mark the date actually...

Edited, Apr 26th 2009 4:16pm by Pensive
#14 Apr 26 2009 at 10:15 AM Rating: Default
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The differences hardly matter if the ripple through catwho's social network is large enough to effect her directly.


Wrong.


Um, I've been to lots of plays done by the Town & Gown at the Athens Community Theater.


I stand corrected. You are more directly impacted by this than I am by a factor of .000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001, not 0.


I'm a little sad that they're canceling the remaining runs of their current production. It's a small town. Even if I didn't know the shooter or victims personally, half my Facebook page is freaking out because they DID know someone, and it's still a national headline. (One of the victims is heavily involved in the local pagan community, which is apparently how he know half my friends.)


I'm glad he's dead then. Remind me to think of him when I'm shitting later, so I can laugh and laugh that his ludicrous hand binding, maypole dancing, moon singing, "look at me and how different and unique I am" *** is now a rotting corpse.


What, so we're not supposed to discuss any kind of news story here unless we're somehow directly involved? Never mind the 11 pages on Vermont legislating gay marriage, I'm not gay and I don't live in Vermont, has no impact on me, nope nope.


Institutional progress on a contentious social issue is approximately 100,000,000,000 times as important as some random meaningless person being killed. Even if that random meaningless person lives in close proximity to where you are. Yes, your mortal, it's exciting yet frightening like fucking an electric eel for the first time. What it is not, is significant in any way. It's completely irrelevant to you, to me, to society, to everyone save the small handful of people who were either killed or closely connected to those who were killed.

If you want to post when your mother dies, I'll have sympathy for you. If you want to post when an earthquake kills thousands, I'll share the pity for those who were unfortunate. This isn't that. This is you being exciting that you were near death, and needing to let others know that you were near death so you can enjoy it more. If that's your thing, fine. Being surprised I don't appreciate your attempts at ************ enhancement with this cloying banal faux self righteousness is a waste of time, though. Perhaps consider for a few moments why it is this is just so exciting to you when the 10000 other murders that happened on the same day are utterly meaningless.

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#15 Apr 26 2009 at 12:09 PM Rating: Good
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I'm glad he's dead then. Remind me to think of him when I'm sh*tting later, so I can laugh and laugh that his ludicrous hand binding, maypole dancing, moon singing, "look at me and how different and unique I am" *** is now a rotting corpse.


Pagan rituals are very fun to watch.

Why I focus on only this part of you post, I will never know.

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On a slight tangent, I believe that my first brush with mortality didn't happen with death at all; I've been to at least 15 funerals in my life and they aren't that bad. The first time I ever saw one of my parents break down and cry (for any reason)? That was much more of a wake up call.

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Wrong.


Oh jesus christ thank you for pointing that out. I'm so embarrassed I mixed up 'e' with 'a'

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This isn't that. This is you being exciting that you were near death, and needing to let others know that you were near death so you can enjoy it more.


You -must- already know that even if that's correct (which I'm not sold on it yet, but whatever) it's not due to any intention or malicious schadenfreude coming from her right? It could also be a simple conflation of various causes that causes her to get attached to this event. I think you are grossly oversimplifying.

Edited, Apr 26th 2009 4:20pm by Pensive
#16 Apr 26 2009 at 1:02 PM Rating: Excellent
My mom was already murdered in her home in 2004. Too late, Smash.
#17 Apr 26 2009 at 1:05 PM Rating: Excellent
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catwho the Pest wrote:
My mom was already murdered in her home in 2004. Too late, Smash.


He won't care, he's got a cold and refuses to nap.

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#18 Apr 26 2009 at 1:07 PM Rating: Default
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You -must- already know that even if that's correct (which I'm not sold on it yet, but whatever) it's not due to any intention or malicious schadenfreude coming from her right? It could also be a simple conflation of various causes that causes her to get attached to this event. I think you are grossly oversimplifying.


Of course I know that. I am in no way oversimplifying. I just have a much lower level of tolerance than you do for the wonder of ignorance. Were she three years old, I think you'd find I'd have a great deal more patience. Where she isn't, I tire of the fascination people have with vague proximity. I am, of course guilty of this myself, I'm emotionally attached to corporations that assemble teams of men to play child's games. What I am not, however, is ignorantly self righteous of this. If you'd like to post that the "Red Sox" are a marketing construct I've been suckered into being attached to through the simplest of conditioning, I'd agree completely. I wouldn't argue and protest that there was some magical calling for me to live vicariously through them.



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My mom was already murdered in her home in 2004.


I'm truly sorry for that. I think. Did she deserve it?

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#20 Apr 26 2009 at 1:10 PM Rating: Excellent
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Smasharoo wrote:

My mom was already murdered in her home in 2004.


I'm truly sorry for that. I think. Did she deserve it?



<insert horrible inappropriate joke about her being a Yankees fan here and add one more paving stone to my road to hell>

Forgive me catwho, I'm a bad person.

On second thought, blame Smash.

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#21 Apr 26 2009 at 1:16 PM Rating: Decent
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. @#%^ off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.


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#22 Apr 26 2009 at 1:36 PM Rating: Excellent
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Smasharoo wrote:

My mom was already murdered in her home in 2004.


I'm truly sorry for that. I think. Did she deserve it?



I was thinking highly of you for the first sentence and then I just think 'you *******' for the second Smiley: glare

As for the OP, sorry to hear about this. Its horrible that people do sometimes go postal and kill people Smiley: frown
#23 Apr 26 2009 at 4:20 PM Rating: Good
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As for the OP, sorry to hear about this. Its horrible that people do sometimes go postal and kill people


For the victims and their friends and family, sure, but the murderer probably feels great. Haven't you ever wondered how cathartic it'd feel to take up arms and drown your sea of troubles with a tide of blood even greater? To be avenged for every tedium, every idiocy, every little meaningless problem dumped upon you by the hordes of imbeciles that hound you? To make the world, in some small way, a better place?

Man, I'm rubbish at this. I ought to take classes from Kuwoobie or something.

I'm sorry for your loss, catwho.
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For the victims and their friends and family, sure, but the murderer probably feels great. Haven't you ever wondered how cathartic it'd feel to take up arms and drown your sea of troubles with a tide of blood even greater? To be avenged for every tedium, every idiocy, every little meaningless problem dumped upon you by the hordes of imbeciles that hound you? To make the world, in some small way, a better place?


I would actually go so far as to call some murders the very embodiment of human spirit and heroism. Taking up a cause and being willing to die for it is winning life. It's not ethically sound or even subjectively justified, but the process of what a shooter like that must go through is agonizingly beautiful... sublime even; an assertion against the universe for one brief and horrible moment in time.

Though sometimes they're just stupid. Since we're sharing, my uncle was murdered about a year after cat's event, and he wasn't even the intended target. The things that people do on meth are just.... horrifying sometimes. The saving grace was that the uncle in question had no drugs in his system whatsoever, and probably suffered very little. iirc Cat's was in much the same vein. Of course I might not be recalling correctly.

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I am, of course guilty of this myself, I'm emotionally attached to corporations that assemble teams of men to play child's games. What I am not, however, is ignorantly self righteous of this.


I'm glad my psychological hooks are mainly about videogames; that was I can get into big arguments with jophiel about their cultural and aesthetic relevance.

Edited, Apr 26th 2009 9:01pm by Pensive
#25 Apr 26 2009 at 5:43 PM Rating: Excellent
Actually, no, I think the majority of people that commit murder, even if its premeditated, feel like sh*t before and after. They're committing the act because they feel no other recourse (unless they are Hannibal Lectar and do it because they're sick *****.) Maybe the "during" they feel great, but that's for what, maybe 30 seconds? And then your life is effectively over -- either you feel so sh*tty you kill yourself, or you're stuck in jail.

And no, my mom didn't deserve it. >_>

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And then your life is effectively over -- either you feel so sh*tty you kill yourself, or you're stuck in jail.


These are not the only two responses.

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