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#202REDACTED, Posted: May 04 2009 at 10:19 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Tulip,
#203 May 04 2009 at 10:20 AM Rating: Decent
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Christians won't put a gun to your head and force you to change your behaviour; but we should preach the message allowing the oppurtunity of salvation by grace to everyone.


There's nothing wrong with letting the government legislate morality. You'd be more respectable (to me at any rate) if you advocated banning the practice of homosexual sex outright, rather than occupy some strange in-between zone where you tolerate purportedly evil behavior. Take a stand and try to get it outlawed, if that's really what you believe.
#204 May 04 2009 at 10:23 AM Rating: Excellent
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hangtennow wrote:
Tulip,

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My neighbor is gay. And I bet he'd make heaven pretty fabulous if he inherited it.


/shakes head

Do you know the difference between heaven and hell?

I don't care what the difference between heaven and hell is, because it's all a farce. If there really is a heaven and hell, I know which one you'll be going to, by your own set of rules.
#205 May 04 2009 at 10:23 AM Rating: Excellent
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Feel free to continue spewing hatred


Isn't that what you are doing?

You seem hell bent that the gays are the main source of HIV infections. For the sake of argument, let's say you are absolutely right. The gay agenda is henceforth amended to support AIDs.

Now that we have that out of the way, what the hell does it matter to you? You speak of Christian beliefs and the trinity and such, but you forget that your very Bible tells you a couple of things.

Firstly, everyone is a child of God and to love everyone the same way Jesus loved you without even knowing who you are. You seem to not be doing that with you condemning a whole community.

It also says that all sins weigh the same, iirc. This would mean that if acts that are against God doesn't come without punishment (ie, your argument on the decrease of immunity on gays and the henceforth coming of AIDs) you are probably going to get herpes if you enjoy getting your **** sucked. Oh, and your wife will get cervical cancer since I'm sure she would enjoy offering her cnut as a buffet to you.

You are hell bent on judging gays as sinners but omit your own sins which have the same weight as gay activity. You also seem to forget that it's not your place to judge any other of God's children as the only one to judge and condemn is God himself.

I suggest double checking this Bible thing you like referring to. Much like how you don't fully read any of the links both posted by you and other posters, I believe you haven't actually read the good book either.
#206REDACTED, Posted: May 04 2009 at 10:24 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Pensive,
#207REDACTED, Posted: May 04 2009 at 10:25 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Exodus,
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Bah, I broke my own rule and responded to him. Made it almost a year, I think. I feel kinda queasy now.

#209 May 04 2009 at 10:25 AM Rating: Decent
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Varrus hates homosexuals almost as much as he hates Brutus.


Honestly when you look up and see that ******* being eternally gored and dismembered on the teeth of satans second head, I bet you'd be pretty damn thankful to only be stuck in absolute zero temperature ice for all of eternity.
#210 May 04 2009 at 10:26 AM Rating: Good
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Bah, I broke my own rule and responded to him. Made it almost a year, I think. I feel kinda queasy now.

It's hard to be apathetic in the face of blatant pig-ignorance.
#211 May 04 2009 at 10:27 AM Rating: Excellent
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hangtennow wrote:
Exodus,

Ash said this the post before yours;

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If there really is a heaven and hell, I know which one you'll be going to,


Would you say this is spewing hatred?



Yes.

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You are hell bent on judging gays as sinners but omit your own sins which have the same weight as gay activity. You also seem to forget that it's not your place to judge any other of God's children as the only one to judge and condemn is God himself.


You didn't actually read the rest of my post other than the part I quoted which contained what you wrote, I imagine, since it's impossible for you to have read my whole post that quickly and this is the best you can do to a rebuttal.
#212 May 04 2009 at 10:33 AM Rating: Decent
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Christians aren't supposed to do this. Not to mention it's downright unamerican.


It's not un-american to outlaw evil. It's un-american to outlaw non-harmful practices that happen to disagree with your personal set of ethics. There is a world of difference between those two categories. If you really believe that homosexuality is harmful and evil then it's no more un-american to plug for it's abolishment than it is to stop child molestation, or murder.

Of course you're under no obligation whatsoever to abolish gay sex if it's not actually evil, and there is some nagging little doubt in the back of your mind that it's not actually contributing toward the downfall of your country.

Maybe I'm just being overly optimistic about what you really believe.
#213 May 04 2009 at 10:37 AM Rating: Good
hangtennow wrote:
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My neighbor is gay. And I bet he'd make heaven pretty fabulous if he inherited it.


/shakes head

Do you know the difference between heaven and hell?



Doesn't one you win if you forgo material wealth and judge people have pearly gates, streets paved in gold, crowns that show how awesome you were in life, and huge mansions to live in? And doesn't the other one have really hot, sandy beaches, a guy with a pitchfork, and some torture or something?

Of course... you'd have to actually believe in them to care either way which one is which. And given how some of the "christians" act around these parts (which includes your parts, by the way) I'd say that it's hard to tell the difference between "heaven" and "hell."
#214 May 04 2009 at 10:38 AM Rating: Excellent
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Maybe I'm just being overly optimistic about what you really believe.


You are just optimistic in that he actually knows what the hell he's talking about. Smiley: laugh

I'm mostly bored so figured I'd get some amusement playing Poke-the-Varus.
#215REDACTED, Posted: May 04 2009 at 10:41 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Exodus,
#216REDACTED, Posted: May 04 2009 at 10:44 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ash,
#217 May 04 2009 at 10:47 AM Rating: Decent
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And doesn't the other one have really hot, sandy beaches, a guy with a pitchfork, and some torture or something?


Inferno? etc.etc.

I'm joking but seriously, there are some hells out there that I wouldn't be so fearful of attending. At it's most fluffy, hell's just the absence of God. I can totally dig that.

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No different than people here pointing out that when I sleep with numerous women i'm not acting as a christian should. My motivation isn't to point at someone who's doing something wrong; it's to help people see that certain behaviour takes one out of the grace of god.


Why? Even by the most charitable standards, grace is never something that you can go from lacking to having, certainly not by anything that you can do. It's not their decision; why blame them for it?

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#218 May 04 2009 at 10:52 AM Rating: Excellent
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hangtennow wrote:
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You are hell bent on judging gays as sinners but omit your own sins which have the same weight as gay activity. You also seem to forget that it's not your place to judge any other of God's children as the only one to judge and condemn is God himself.


I am not judging anyone; merely relaying the word of God.

No different than people here pointing out that when I sleep with numerous women i'm not acting as a christian should. My motivation isn't to point at someone who's doing something wrong; it's to help people see that certain behaviour takes one out of the grace of god.


Adultery weakens the immune system and makes you more susceptible to HIV. Instead of trying to spread God's word, you should try to follow it yourself. The only thing every person in this thread is really trying to push is the live and let live mentality.

The thread originally started with a man who wasn't allowed to be by his dieing loved one. You enter to spread "God's word" and somehow don't think you aren't being hateful, but informative. A real Christian knows to love one another and not judge by the sins that person may or may not be doing. As it says so in the Bible itself, "Ye without sin, cast the first stone."
#219REDACTED, Posted: May 04 2009 at 10:57 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Exodus,
#220 May 04 2009 at 10:59 AM Rating: Good
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I do. But at least I know I'm not perfect and that some behaviour I engage in isn't helping my soul. Nor am I trying to get the govn to legitamize my sin.


The government doesn't have any restrictions as far as promiscuity goes. Not quite the same thing.
#221REDACTED, Posted: May 04 2009 at 11:01 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Tulip,
#222 May 04 2009 at 11:03 AM Rating: Decent
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Besides putting men in jail for not paying child support that is.


You're conflating issues again.

You can be as promiscuous as you'd like, for as long as you'd like if you don't get anyone pregnant.
#223REDACTED, Posted: May 04 2009 at 11:04 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Pensive,
#224 May 04 2009 at 11:06 AM Rating: Good
hangtennow wrote:
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The government doesn't have any restrictions as far as promiscuity goes


Besides putting men in jail for not paying child support that is.


That has nothing to do with keeping you from having all the sex you want to. Just don't have a kid. Someone as smart as you should be able to figure out how to keep that from happening. And someone as "pro-life" as you should be more than happy to help pay for any kid resulting from one of your one night stands with the triple digit income you make.
#225 May 04 2009 at 11:08 AM Rating: Good
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hangtennow wrote:
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And you can be as gay as you want and not actually catch an std.



Not according to YOUR arguments. According the arguments you've put forth here, being homosexual automatically equates to being a disease-carrier.

Make up your mind.
#226REDACTED, Posted: May 04 2009 at 11:09 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Tulip,
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