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#127 May 03 2009 at 4:55 PM Rating: Default
Do you people even know what the word deviant means?

And yes this applies to anyone engaging in **** sex.



I'm curious. How many of you parents out there cherish the thought of you child taking a fist up the as*?

#128 May 03 2009 at 5:01 PM Rating: Decent
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hangtennow wrote:
Do you people even know what the word deviant means?

And yes this applies to anyone engaging in **** sex.



I'm curious. How many of you parents out there cherish the thought of you child taking a fist up the as*?


If you want to try **** sex and you put your fist up their **** you're doing it wrong.
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#129 May 03 2009 at 5:02 PM Rating: Good
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hangtennow wrote:


I'm curious. How many of you parents out there cherish the thought of you child taking a fist up the as*?



Would you cherish the thought of your child having sweaty heterosexual sex, Herr Fritzl?
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Seriously, what the f*ck nature?
#130 May 03 2009 at 5:04 PM Rating: Decent
hangtennow wrote:
Do you people even know what the word deviant means?

And yes this applies to anyone engaging in **** sex.

I'm curious. How many of you parents out there cherish the thought of you child taking a fist up the as*?


We all do. The point is that your definition was absurd as, and forgive me for reusing an example, a kid saying they like orange juice because it's yellow.
#131 May 03 2009 at 5:09 PM Rating: Default
Anna,

You're kidding right?

I asked you first. What would you think if your son came home with his boyfriend and you got home from work late only to walk in his room and find he was getting it from behind by John?

If you tell me you would be happy for him because he found someone that "loved" him you're a liar.



#132 May 03 2009 at 5:12 PM Rating: Decent
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If you tell me you would be happy for him because he found someone that "loved" him you're a liar.


I'm guessing no one has ever accused you of being open minded.
#133 May 03 2009 at 5:16 PM Rating: Decent
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hangtennow wrote:
Anna,

You're kidding right?

I asked you first. What would you think if your son came home with his boyfriend and you got home from work late only to walk in his room and find he was getting it from behind by John?

If you tell me you would be happy for him because he found someone that "loved" him you're a liar.


Why spend any time thinking about homosexuals? What business is it of yours what they do in the privacy of their own home? Who cares? They are what they are. What's the big deal?
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#134 May 03 2009 at 5:34 PM Rating: Excellent
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Hardly a valid argument to say "and if you disagree with me you're a liar." I do disagree with you. Prove me wrong.

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#135 May 03 2009 at 5:34 PM Rating: Good
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hangtennow wrote:
Anna,

You're kidding right?

I asked you first. What would you think if your son came home with his boyfriend and you got home from work late only to walk in his room and find he was getting it from behind by John?

If you tell me you would be happy for him because he found someone that "loved" him you're a liar.





Personally, I'd be embarrassed, but no moreso than if I found my daughter in bed with a boyfriend. Some things a parent just isn't meant to see. Your child making love with their partner is one of them.
#136 May 03 2009 at 5:37 PM Rating: Good
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Stuck inside today...at least the rains great for the garden.

Not even talking about the moral implications of homosexuals engaging in **** sex it's easy to see that homosexual, at least men, leads to increased health risks. This is why I refer to homosexuality as a deviant behaviour. Why you people would want to legitamize such behaviour is beyond me.




IF "being homosexual" were the same as "engaging in unprotected **** sex" you would have a point. But seeing as AT LEAST 23% don't engage in **** sex at all, and 24% more use protection when doing so (in other words, nearly half the gay population check the link I provided before,) you have, hmm, no valid point whatsoever.

Who is surprised? Not me.

#137 May 03 2009 at 5:39 PM Rating: Good
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hangtennow wrote:

I'm curious. How many of you parents out there cherish the thought of you child taking a fist up the as*?



If ANY parent spend any appreciable amount of time imagining what sort of sex acts their child might engage in, that parent needs professional help.
#138 May 03 2009 at 5:43 PM Rating: Good
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Who is surprised? Not me.

I'm surprised someone like varrus has made it this far in life without dropping dead of a heart attack after seeing an asscheek on ER or something.
#139 May 03 2009 at 5:53 PM Rating: Excellent
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hangtennow wrote:
Anna,

You're kidding right?

I asked you first. What would you think if your son came home with his boyfriend and you got home from work late only to walk in his room and find he was getting it from behind by John?

If you tell me you would be happy for him because he found someone that "loved" him you're a liar.





But apparently if John was stooping some chick, you'd be so hot and bothered, you'd start jerking off with them? Jeez, Varrus, you've got issues.
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Seriously, what the f*ck nature?
#140 May 03 2009 at 6:42 PM Rating: Good
I knew varrus was an ignorant moran before this thread came about, but goddamn dude, put down the shovel already, the hole is deep enough.
#141 May 03 2009 at 7:08 PM Rating: Decent
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Do you people even know what the word deviant means?


As far as I was aware, deviancy refers to any sexual activity (in a sexual context of course) that isn't consensual coitus.

When you wrote the following:

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Not even talking about the moral implications of homosexuals engaging in **** sex it's easy to see that homosexual, at least men, leads to increased health risks. This is why I refer to homosexuality as a deviant behaviour.


you seem to imply that homosexual sex is deviant because it leads to increased health risks. That is to say, you are asserting that every act of dangerous sex is deviant (which is false) as well as that straight, non-deviant acts of sex can not be dangerous (which is false.)

Maybe you just meant something different; it's not like you spent much time elucidating. Feel free to clarify.

#142 May 03 2009 at 7:37 PM Rating: Good
I bet Varrus is thinking about **** sex right now.
#144 May 03 2009 at 8:42 PM Rating: Excellent
I'm thinking about having unprotected **** sex with Varrus' imaginary son who is of legal consenting age.
#145 May 03 2009 at 10:41 PM Rating: Excellent
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I knew varrus was an ignorant moran before this thread came about, but goddamn dude, put down the shovel already, the hole is deep enough.


Balls deep! AMIRITE?!

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#146 May 03 2009 at 10:44 PM Rating: Excellent
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#147 May 03 2009 at 10:50 PM Rating: Excellent
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hangtennow wrote:
Do you people even know what the word deviant means?

And yes this applies to anyone engaging in **** sex.



I'm curious. How many of you parents out there cherish the thought of you child taking a fist up the as*?


I know how YOU'RE using the word deviant. You're using it as a pejorative, mixed in with its original meaning.

The word comes from statistics, and it means something a bit like an "outlier" or a "minority". Deviant states or behaviour are Minority states or behaviour compared to the Majority states or behaviour that are clustered around the Median Average.

For example, almost all women in the West have their ears pierced at least once in each earlobe. Any woman without any piercing in her earlobes for earrings is in a small minority, far from the norm.

So without any sarcasm or irony, just as a pure matter of fact IT IS DEVIANT BEHAVIOUR FOR A WOMAN NOT TO PIERCE HER EARS AND WEAR EARRINGS VIA THAT METHOD.

This is where the morals come in. Majority behaviour may be immoral, but lets skip that case. It is possible for minority/outlier/deviant behaviour to also be morally acceptable behaviour. It is also possible for minority/outlier/devient behaviour to be morally unacceptable behaviour.

The mere fact of deviancy does not automatically means immorality follows. I find nothing morally wrong with women with unpierced ears.

I also find nothing morally wrong with homosexual behaviour, or with **** sex.

I have heard ample evidence that when prepared slowly and properly, many people find the experience of **** intercourse/fisting deliciously erotic, sexually thrilling, and orgasmically fulfilling. These are all things I would wish for my child whenever they are having sex or making love. Thus if my daughter or son sexually enjoys **** fisting I would cherish the thought of my child taking a fist up the ***** Except I wouldn't think too hard about the details of my own son or daughter having sex, because that would be a bit icky.

It's all about cups of tea. I know a woman who loathes and despises the very thought of giving fellatio, and so she never does it. Really thinking seriously about doing it herself, and the mechanics of putting her mouth to the organ that her husband pees out of, makes her want to throw up. It's not her cup of tea. She's straight, she adores her husband, they have a very full and fulfilling sex life, but they skip the blow-jobs. Blow-jobs ARE other people's cups of tea, and so they engage in what they enjoy. If **** isn't your cup of tea, don't do it. It's other people's cup of tea, leave them to it.
#148 May 03 2009 at 11:06 PM Rating: Good
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hangtennow wrote:
Anna,

You're kidding right?

I asked you first. What would you think if your son came home with his boyfriend and you got home from work late only to walk in his room and find he was getting it from behind by John?

If you tell me you would be happy for him because he found someone that "loved" him you're a liar.




You're projecting YOUR feelings about something onto other people. "No-Fellatio-Lady" understands that although it makes her want to spew, if she caught another couple at it, she'd be witnessing joy and love. Or maybe just some down-to-Earth lust. If it was me walking in on John taking my son from behind I would be embarrassed to have walked in on my son having sex, but I'd get over that fairly fast, and I'd certainly make sure I had a light-hearted joke ready for when I next saw my son, so he knew that I didn't think it was a horrible bad thing that he's not a virgin any more, and I "caught" him at it.

Really, we have cards for everything else. We need people to announce that they're not virgins any more, so we can all give "Congratulations" Smiley: grin

And I'd ALSO be happy for my son that he was having fun. Although I'd wait and chat with him later about his partner to find out if he felt like he was in love, or if it was a more casual relationship.

Plus if my son still wasn't close to being able to move out yet, and he still had a single bed, I'd buy him a double.
#149 May 04 2009 at 3:07 AM Rating: Excellent
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hangtennow wrote:
Anna,

You're kidding right?

I asked you first. What would you think if your son came home with his boyfriend and you got home from work late only to walk in his room and find he was getting it from behind by John?

If you tell me you would be happy for him because he found someone that "loved" him you're a liar.



I'm so glad that people like you are a shrinking population.


I think my reaction would be similar:
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Because he was a boy, we bought Zac toy trucks. But then he stole his sister's Barbie doll. He liked changing her shoes and "decowating Baaabie."

Wanting to teach the best way of life, we talked to Zac about not taking other people's possessions. He begged, "Well, then, can I have my own doll?"

He was 2 years old.

When Zac turned 3, because we focused on family, we had a birthday party for him, with his cousins and grandparents in attendance. Someone gave him a cowboy outfit. He looked at me with his big brown eyes, "Mom, what am I supposed to do with this? I thought we weren't supposed to play with guns." Then he toddled to our costume box, put on one of my old floral skirts and handed me a ribbon to tie in his hair. Pink.

After a few days of kindergarten, Zac burst in the door and asked, "Mom, can boys marry boys?"

As it is God's way to accept us as we are, I inquired, "Why do you ask?"

"Well, I was just thinking, if you love Dad and you love me and you love my sister, and we all love each other, and that's all good, why can't boys marry boys? There'd be more love in the world."

He was 5.

When he was 6, since we have strong community values, we signed Zac up for T-ball. Like the other boys, he spit on his new leather glove. His dad, with his sound family values, left work early to get to Zac's games.

Zac held up the glove we had oiled and shaped the night before. He meant to catch the ball, I'm sure, but his right hand waved at least 5 inches from the ball's trajectory. He cried and threw the glove down. "Mom, I can't do this. I hate T-ball. But I've been practicing ballet in front of my mirror after you put me to bed. Can I have dance lessons?"

In junior high, sports were mandatory. The jocks, who went to church on Sunday, smashed Zac against the lockers and screamed slurs.

He covered his tousled middle-school hair with his Red Sox cap just like the others. He wore plaid flannel shirts just like the others. His voice deepened in those years, just like the others. None of this protected him. These class leaders wrote graffiti on the walls: "Zac is a sissy."

Theater kept him sane. He landed the role of Curly in the eighth-grade musical production of "Oklahoma." To start the show, he waltzed through the dark, silent auditorium from the back of the room onto the stage. He sang, "Oh, what a beautiful morning," and the audience hushed. While his classmates had been perfecting their jump shots, Zac had been working to hit high A. It was a crowning moment in his life.

I called a psychiatrist, a deeply religious man, to ask him how I might know, or if there was a way to predict, who might be gay. He said, "The only indicator so far that research shows reliably is that when a boy – from birth – consistently makes non-traditional choices, the chances are greater that he's gay.

"And is it painful, this coming out to himself? To others?" I asked this expert. Then, because it's a mother's job to care for all her children with a wide-open Christian heart I was raised to cultivate, I added, "What do I do? Is there anything I need to know?"

A spiritual man, he said, "Embrace him. Listen to him. We all have pain. We all suffer. The training is love. Be a mom. You're doin' it."

When Zac turned 14, he told me he wanted a sewing machine for Christmas. "Sewing machine?"

"Think gay," he said.

"How long have you known?"

"Forever."

"So, what do you think about this argument that sexual orientation is a choice?"

"Mom, who would choose this; the persecution, the harassment, the prejudice?"

We have a gay son. He has a distinct masculine identity, dark two-day unshaven scruff. He loves fast cars. He drinks Starbucks.

He argues vociferously. He can act bull-headed, and sting like a scorpion. Like the rest of us, he works, plays, sleeps and eats. He calls almost daily and I end each conversation, "I love you, hon."

He echoes, "Love you, too."

Some argue that being gay is preventable. Of course it is. We could all stop having children. Zero birth rate would wipe out homosexuality. But why would we want to eradicate the humor, the creativity, the beauty, the flair? Why?

If my son ever loves a man enough to want to be a husband, I'll take their commitment as one more strand to strengthen the institution of marriage.

How could their possibility of a bond destroy the one I have with his father? I don't get that. And to answer Zac's kindergarten question, "Can boys marry boys?"

Why not?

More love in the world.


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#150 May 04 2009 at 3:20 AM Rating: Good
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Because he was a boy, we bought Zac toy trucks. But then he stole his sister's Barbie doll. He liked changing her shoes and "decowating Baaabie."
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How could their possibility of a bond destroy the one I have with his father? I don't get that. And to answer Zac's kindergarten question, "Can boys marry boys?"

Why not?

More love in the world.

I cried. A lot.
#151 May 04 2009 at 3:27 AM Rating: Good
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I asked you first. What would you think if your son came home with his boyfriend and you got home from work late only to walk in his room and find he was getting it from behind by John?


I'd feel the same as if I'd walked in on him with a girl. I would be embarrassed, he would be embarrassed, and then I would make jokes about it for the next 20 years. Just because you'd have a huge problem with it doesn't mean the rest of us would.


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If you tell me you would be happy for him because he found someone that "loved" him you're a liar.


I love how you put "loved" in quotations. It's as though you're trying to imply that it would be imposible for one to be in love with someone of the same gender.

Also, I'd be happy for my kid if he/she fell in love and was loved in return regardless of who they were in love with.
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