The problem with "domestic partnership"Follow

This is how I see it.

Only if you do it wrong. On both counts.

Which, I imagine, is exactly the problem with teens going the **** intercourse route in the deluded effort to "practice abstinence."

Hi there. It's time to put down the crayons and walk away from the "Name, quote, one line" format and type a real argument.

I would just like to take this time to remind everyone that if **** sex hurts (when you do not intend for it to hurt) then URDOINITRONG.

Yup, Rectal sex is more vulnerable to infection than vaginal sex. That's NOT the same thing as saying that homosexual activity lowers a person's IMMUNE SYSTEM.

Firstly, there's a heck of lot more to gay sex than rectal sex. Secondly, smart and polite people go have a doctor's exam before every new sex partner. (or at the end of the last partner, if you are in the habit of one night stands). If there's no infection, then there's no problem. Thirdly, this is what condoms and acids were invented for.

Fourthly The USA HIV/AIDS infection rate is over ten times the infection rate in Australia, the UK and Canada. 12.8 per 100,000 compared with 0.9, 1.4 and 0.8 respectively. What the heck have you guys not been doing?

In Oz, when it was discovered, we got educational TV commercials, and community campaigns to start wearing condoms with every casual sex partner, and any partner you both hadn't been medically cleared with being STD free. Condoms handed out in nightclubs. Condom dispensers in High Schools toilets. And in Oz, High School covers grade 7-12, so 10 and 11 year olds up to 17-18 year olds. Condom dispensers in College (TAFE) and Unis.

In Africa HIV/AIDS is NOT a gay activity thing. At least 6 countries have infection rates of 15-25% of the population. In Subsaharan Africa 59% of HIV/AIDS infected people are women. So while we might guess that unprotected **** sex as well as vaginal sex is rampant among heterosexual couples in some African nations, the 15%-25% infection rate of the population is just too high to say that gay sex is responsible for this.



Edited, May 2nd 2009 2:40pm by Aripyanfar

The facts are there. That you choose to ignore them at your own peril is a personal decision you've made. Which is probably why you're for govn healthcare. You know you're going to get sick by engaging in the behaviour you do and you want someone else to pay for your care when it happens.


Facts are cool. Did you know that men from Tennessee are 1000 times more likely to suck a stranger's **** then lie about it? Amazing, but true.

Nah, then we'd have a huge outbreak of gonorrhea of the ear.

I know you're just trying to make some jab at coddy being overly general or imposing his views on data instead of the other way around, but honestly, there isn't some magical or inherently more unsafe cause for why this is the case; it's an accident of practicality. You can combat it with education and practicing safer sex, or going to the doctor like a sane person.

I know you're just trying to make some jab at coddy being overly general or imposing his views on data instead of the other way around, but honestly, there isn't some magical or inherently more unsafe cause for why this is the case; it's an accident of practicality. You can combat it with education and practicing safer sex, or going to the doctor like a sane person.

Wrong. View this as a simple exercise in practical Sociology.

Here a fact pattern:

STD's are more easily transferred from an infected man to a partner than from an infected woman to a partner. Let's stipulate this is actually the case, as there will be obvious exceptions, the rate of HPV among gay men is likely dramatically lower than among the heterosexual population, but again, let's stipulate this is the case for most STDs, AIDS particularly because of it's mechanism of transfer.

Most gay couples do not have exclusive defined roles as penetrator/pentratee. Let's stipulate that 75% of gay couples/encounters involve penetration from both partners at some point along with ejaculation of fluids from both partners at some point.

Most hetero couples/encounters will not involve the female partner penetrating the male partner. Those that do involve this will rarely involve penetration that is likely to allow for the transfer of fluids.

Gay men and hetero men and women are roughly equally aware of the risks of STD transmission and how to prevent it and are roughly equally likely to take steps to do so. Let's stipulate this too, as it's obviously arguable, but not relevant.

Gay men and hetero men and women will have approximately the same number of partners and incidents of sexual activity. This is again, arguable, but not hugely important.

Given all of these factors, gay men will have a higher rate of infection. To combat this with "education and practicing safer sex, or going to the doctor like a sane person" gay men as a population would have to be DRAMATICALLY more invested in preventing STD transmission than the hetero population. This is highly unlikely to happen.

Is this even possible? Would you have to have like a two way strapon that absorbed and shot vaginal fluid?

Playing bloody knuckles then fisting would probably do the trick. I just made a google hit for about 100 fetishists, I'm sure.

I want to say that, aside from a highly specific and short list of occasions (fasting + lots of evacuation), **** sex is revolting to me. I'd much rathe... nevermind.

Oh you.