The problem with "domestic partnership"Follow

I've never been legitimately offended by something I've read on the internet, but this tweaked a nerve. It wouldn't bug me so much, but that it's also coming from someone who hates gays. I wonder, varrus, why is it that you and your christian morals find it ok to strike pain in the heart of, well, anyone? I think varrus would shoot me and feed me to his dogs or stuff me under his trailer were we ever to meet in reality.

What's with your skewed view of morality? Religion is not the only moral instigator in the world. Not that (with people like you who try and force "morals" down our throats with a fucking bazooka) I could doubt the institution of religions moral instilling ability anyway...

You honestly lack any inkling of anything that could even be comparable at a far stretch to reading comprehension. By telling you that your religious beliefs don't belong in government, we are doing just that. I am 100% positive that your bible does not tell you to rule this country with a pair of god's brass knuckles.

Naw, Varrus is like 75% of the people around me - my county is an island of blue in a sea of deep red, nestled in Appalachia.

And I hate those 75% of people too, because I grew up here and I learned to think for myself, and they didn't. Therefore, the problem is with them, not the culture. You can eat pulled pork and cheer for your favorite football team and still be okay with gay marriage and contraceptives.

Edit: I'd like to say that I've kissed other girls but I was really drunk at the time, and my fiance has kissed other guys but he was really drunk at the time, and neither of us consider ourselves to have had a homosexual experience. It was just drunk kissing.

Edited, May 5th 2009 11:36pm by catwho

You presume that not hating makes you better.

Without action, it's ethically neutral.

Balderdash.

Intentions are ethically valued, even for lack of consequence.

Edited, May 6th 2009 2:14am by Pensive

Hatred is an intention. Hatred is directed toward something; it has an object. That makes it an intention.

The thoughts we have about other people and other objects are extremely ethically relevant. They aren't neutral at all.

huh, I never knew her name was Luck.


hahaha, thank you, thank you, tip your waitresses.

Nexa

Unless someone intends to do due to their hatred, their hatred is irrelevant. I wouldn't conflate hatred and intention. You can hate without intending to do anything at all.

That said, hating isn't healthy. And that said, hating isn't bad. I may hate poached eggs, Jacques Derrida or the new Wolverine movie, but hating them doesn't make me a morally worse person.

To all those who are saying that gays should not be married because of their increased risk of transmitting STDs. Do you plan to sleep with or exchange bodily fluids with a homosexual? If not, then what does it matter if two guys get hitched (and, as others have pointed out, typically reduce their transmission of diseases)?

I believe intravenous drug users shouldn't be allowed to get married, because they have a high transmission of STDs?

Is this following the same logic?

Edit:
The government validates a lot of behavior I disagree with. However, this behavior (smoking) does not really affect me, because I CHOOSE to avoid contact with smokers that will make me uncomfortable.

It takes a bigot to have to call on Big 'Ole Government to make sure they don't have to have contact with the icky homosexuals, but it takes an actual Christian to pick up their act. You realize that judgement is not left to you, it's up to God? So why make decisions, or attempt to make decisions, based on a judgement that is not yours to make - according to the word of God?

God said you can spread the word of God, not force it down throats. Read your own Holy Book there, son.

Edited, May 6th 2009 10:24am by SirElephant

I'm not saying people who don't agree with me are bigots. I'm saying that a certain, select number of people who intend to call upon the government to solve their problems are.

Listen, if you want to build a compound that you and your friends can live in that excludes homosexuals, I'm all for that. That's fine. But to give the government more say over what one can and cannot do is not good. That's the bigotry - an inability to creatively solve your problems, instead raining down a blanket of rules to govern everyone.

Edit:

Was not aware, sources?

Edited, May 6th 2009 10:33am by SirElephant

Edited, May 6th 2009 10:34am by SirElephant

Okay, we'll call our compound Earth. You can have Mars.

You can make the claim that deviant sexual behavior puts an individual at higher risk for STDS. You can even make the claim (though proving it might be difficult) that gay MEN have a higher incident of AIDS contraction. But this IN NO WAY CORRELATES WITH same-sex marriage causing the spread of AIDS.

Just stop this stupid argument and tell us really why you are afraid of homosexuality.




Edited, May 6th 2009 4:57pm by Elinda