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#327REDACTED, Posted: May 05 2009 at 10:23 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ash,
#328 May 05 2009 at 10:24 AM Rating: Good
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hangtennow wrote:
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Yeah, so they can get out of paying out for them.


lmao...of course most of the people that lost out in katrina were either welfare cases or people who chose not to purchase flood insurance. But you want your rich neighbor to foot the bill. How benevolent of you.

Have fun with those eternal ghost chains there, Ebenezer.
#329 May 05 2009 at 10:24 AM Rating: Default
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I hate when people use religion.


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#330 May 05 2009 at 10:25 AM Rating: Good
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I hate when people use religion.


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All right. Smiley: laugh Same thing.
#331 May 05 2009 at 10:25 AM Rating: Default
Ash,

I'll pray for you.

#332 May 05 2009 at 10:26 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm not saying it was or wasn't just the possibility. Insurance companies call things like that an act of "God" for a reason you know.


Yes, random events like a meteorite hitting your house. Living along the Gulf Coast during hurricane season is not a random act of destruction.

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And things are not find in naw lens these days. It's completely f*cked, but i'm guessing you havn't been there since katrina.


1. Your French is atrocious.
2. Soddom and Gomorrah were completely annihilated with no one living except those told by God to escape. New Orleans was not. People lived, the entire city wasn't destroyed. (What does it feel like for the immoral gay man to have to remind you how one of the most simple bible stories went? I enjoy knowing that I know more than you, but I want to know how you feel here.)

In addition, it was well known to any scientist that a strong hurricane hitting New Orleans wouldn't be pretty.
#333 May 05 2009 at 10:26 AM Rating: Good
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hangtennow wrote:
Ash,

I'll pray for you.

Whatever gets your rocks off, slick.

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Edited, May 5th 2009 1:26pm by AshOnMyTomatoes
#334REDACTED, Posted: May 05 2009 at 10:38 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) CBD,
#335 May 05 2009 at 10:44 AM Rating: Good
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I know the story quite well. And I was just making a broad comparison. Unsurprising that you would take what I said out of context.


Is this what you act like when you're backed into a corner but actually choose to reply? It's rather endearing. You should do it more often. I almost feel like I shouldn't be laughing at you.


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It's also well known by everyone that a huge earthquake along san andreas could cause cali to fall into the pacific. That doesn't mean were it to happen it couldn't be an act of god.


I don't understand this at all. This is like saying that people who died to playing russian roulette died because it was an act of God. No, it was a bunch of people living in a risky area.
#336 May 05 2009 at 11:16 AM Rating: Good
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But you want your rich lucky, ingrate, thief of a neighbor to foot the bill. How benevolent of you.


Bout the size of it, yeah.
#337 May 05 2009 at 11:18 AM Rating: Default
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You honestly believe the nurse would have done the same thing had the man in question said "I'm his husband" as opposed to "I'm his legally registered domestic partner"?


Maybe not "that nurse" in particular, but absolutely. If a nurse in a hospital is unaware of the legal changes involving the adoption of domestic partnerships, she's just as likely to be unaware of similar legal changes with regard to marriage.

No matter how many lines of legal code we change, most people's assumptive response is that a "spouse" in this context meaning "someone allowed into the room to make decisions about a person in severe medical condition" is going to be the opposite sex of the injured person. That's the most likely reason she responded the way she did. Had a man come up and claimed to be the spouse of another man in the exact same situation, it's entirely possible she would have responded the same way regardless of whether he was a domestic partner or a husband.

I'm frankly surprised you'd assume anything else.

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#338 May 05 2009 at 11:26 AM Rating: Default
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Working my way through. For the record, I specified in my post that by "gay" I meant "male homosexuals".

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CDC good enough for ya?

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MSM accounted for 71% of all HIV infections among male adults and adolescents in 2005




And where from 71% do you get "60 times more likely"? 71% means gay males have twice the rate, not 60x.


Math is hard, I guess. That would be true if 50% of the male population was gay. But when the highest estimates place that at 10%, that means that gay men are 22 times more likely than straight men to be infected with HIV. That's not 60x, but I'm going to guess that either Varus just winged it, or his source assumed a lower than 10% homosexuality rate (which most sources view as too high, but whatever).


Um... It's still a significantly higher infection rate. We can quibble about why and how, but it's incorrect to just pretend it's not true in some kind of vain attempt at political correctness.
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#339 May 05 2009 at 12:11 PM Rating: Good
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Dear Hangten,

Mr. President

To messers Nehemiah Dodge, Ephraim Robbins, & Stephen S. Nelson a committee of the Danbury Baptist association in the state of Connecticut.

Gentlemen

The affectionate sentiments of esteem & approbation which you are so good as to express towards me, on behalf of the Danbury Baptist association, give me the highest satisfaction. my duties dictate a faithful & zealous pursuit of the interests of my constituents, and in proportion as they are persuaded of my fidelity to those duties, the discharge of them becomes more & more pleasing.

Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man & his god, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, thus building a wall of separation between church and state. [Congress thus inhibited from acts respecting religion, and the Executive authorised only to execute their acts, I have refrained from presenting even occasional performances of devotion presented indeed legally where an Executive is the legal head of a national church, but subject here, as religious exercises only to the voluntary regulations and discipline of each respective sect.] Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties.

I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection and blessing of the common Father and creator of man, and tender you for yourselves and your religious association, assurances of my high respect & esteem.

(signed) Thomas Jefferson
Jan.1.1802.

#340REDACTED, Posted: May 05 2009 at 12:17 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) The number of people who are homosexual or bi is closer to 1%.
#341 May 05 2009 at 12:21 PM Rating: Decent
Where's the cite?

Edited, May 5th 2009 4:06pm by Kaelesh
#342 May 05 2009 at 12:23 PM Rating: Default
Boondock,

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Whosoever shall be guilty of Rape, Polygamy, or Sodomy with man or woman shall be punished, if a man, by castration, if a woman, by cutting thro' the cartilage of her nose a hole of one half inch diameter at the least. - Bill Number 64, authored by Jefferson and "Reported by the Committee of Advisors, 18 June 1779"


Sounds to me like Jefferson wanted to castrate homosexuals.


p.s. you're misinterpreting;

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should make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof




By telling me my religious beliefs have no place in govn you are prohibiting my ability to freely exercise my religious beliefs.

Edited, May 5th 2009 4:25pm by hangtennow
#343REDACTED, Posted: May 05 2009 at 12:36 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Kael,
#344 May 05 2009 at 12:43 PM Rating: Good
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Face it you've been brainwashed. Not to worry i'm here to assist your recovery.


Thank God! It's about time we had a savior.

Btw, Kaelesh was just asking for a cite, not trying to form any argument based on what percent of the population is gay. I don't think very many people are going to change their minds regardless of whether it's 10% or 1%.

A cite that isn't almost 20 years old would be helpful though. Along with an actual link to where you're getting your information from.
#345 May 05 2009 at 12:47 PM Rating: Good
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hangtennow wrote:
Kael,

More facts for you digest;

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An even more recent major national survey of male sexual behavior concluded that "Nearly one-fourth of American men under 40 have had 20 or more sexual partners during their lifetimes, and only 2 percent ever engaged in homosexual behavior..." A team of researchers from the Battelle Human Affairs Research Centers in Seattle published a series of reports on their study in the March-April [1993] issue of Family Planning Perspectives, the magazine of the Alan Guttmacher Institute.


"...Only 2.3 percent of the men reported any homosexual activity in the past 10 years, and just 1.1 percent said they had engaged in exclusively homosexual sex. That is far less than the 10 percent figure attributed to the landmark Kinsey report from 1948" ("Homosexual activity lower than believed, study shows," Colorado Springs Gazette Telegraph, April 15, 1993, p. A-13, emphasis added).



I'd like to know what percentage of those who engaged in homosexual activity were drunk or on drugs at the time.



Face it you've been brainwashed. Not to worry i'm here to assist your recovery.




Edited, May 5th 2009 4:37pm by hangtennow


And several surveys since then in the US report the percentage to be between 6-10%. Several also note that many people have had same-sex thoughts and inclinations, but had not acted upon them. A 2008 survey shows about 9% of men had sex with another man within the past 12 months (note, this is Joseph Fried's survey, and was comparing Republicans to Democrats on a variety of factors, not just sexual habits).
#346REDACTED, Posted: May 05 2009 at 12:50 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) CBD,
#347 May 05 2009 at 12:54 PM Rating: Good
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Locked,

Like I hear so often...source.


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(note, this is Joseph Fried's survey, and was comparing Republicans to Democrats on a variety of factors, not just sexual habits).


Did you miss the part where I named the source?

Edit: Remember that part where you said "If I post a quote and it has the source named in it I don't link it?" Yeah. So do other people.


Edited, May 5th 2009 4:56pm by LockeColeMA
#348 May 05 2009 at 12:54 PM Rating: Decent
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hangtennow wrote:
CBD,

If I post a quote and in the quote there's a source I often don't link it.

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Homosexual activity lower than believed, study shows," Colorado Springs Gazette Telegraph, April 15, 1993, p. A-13, emphasis added


That's the source for your source. I'm wondering what website you got the entire quote from.
#349 May 05 2009 at 1:01 PM Rating: Default
Locked,

I thought you were kidding about Joseph Fried; being sarcastic.

Most of the actual scientific surveys i've looked at shows between 1-3%.




I'm curious if you came to believe homosexuality did in fact create a greater health risk among the population would you feel the same way about homosexual marriage?



Edited, May 5th 2009 5:03pm by hangtennow
#350 May 05 2009 at 1:06 PM Rating: Decent
Where's the cite?
#351 May 05 2009 at 1:14 PM Rating: Good
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Edited, May 20th 2009 9:20pm by BoondockSaint
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