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#1 Apr 23 2009 at 5:31 AM Rating: Decent
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I finished up my five year physical yesterday. I got me a new doctor since I moved. She has threatened to put me on some kind of meds (lipitor!!) if my cholesterol hasn't come down when I next have it checked. Then, her last question of me before heading out of the exam room was if my prescriptions were all ok or if anything needed filling. I'm not on any prescriptions. I thought it odd that she just assumed I was.

My last doc was about as holistic as you could get and still call her a mainstream medical doctor. Prescribing pharmaceutical meds was the last on her list of tricks to cure - I liked her. I'm wondering now if I made a mistake in switching. Maybe, with the infrequency with which I visit the doctor, keeping my old one, despite being 50-60 miles away, would have been better. ?o.o?

How many prescribed medications are people using?

As anyone ever actively set out to reduce their cholesterol strictly with diet?

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#2 Apr 23 2009 at 5:35 AM Rating: Good
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I'm eating Cheerios every morning. I'm sort of dieting, and I'm exercising a lot, but I don't have any prescriptions. Just some vitamins.

Edited, Apr 23rd 2009 8:36am by AshOnMyTomatoes
#3 Apr 23 2009 at 5:36 AM Rating: Decent
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How many prescribed medications are people using?


Unless death is the outcome, I don't use perscription drugs. I think it's unwise and unhealthy to use chemical compounds to alter the body in such ways that it cures athletes foot but gives you bleeding eyeballs.
#4 Apr 23 2009 at 5:39 AM Rating: Excellent
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Get a new doctor or switch back to the old one. I'm sure this one is fine, but you clearly don't mesh well and it doesn't sound like a good fit.

As to the second question, I haven't personally had any issues with cholesterol but I've known several people who have successfully lowered their cholesterol without medication, just by monitoring their diet/exercise.

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#5 Apr 23 2009 at 5:39 AM Rating: Decent
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AshOnMyTomatoes wrote:
I'm eating Cheerios every morning. I'm sort of dieting, and I'm exercising a lot, but I don't have any prescriptions. Just some vitamins.
My Dad made Honey-nut Cheerios - true story.
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#6 Apr 23 2009 at 5:41 AM Rating: Excellent
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No prescription medicines. The only ones I've ever taken have been antibiotics and the rare Vicodin following dental work.

Last time I was at the doctor, they told me my cholesterol was a little higher than it should be but I haven't done much about it. Flea makes me eat Cheerios and I usually make a bowl of cereal my midnight snack since I don't eat breakfast in the morning. I have no idea how much good it does since I haven't really altered my diet otherwise. I'm generally of the opinion (based on personal experience) that doctors are worthless except for trauma care anyway so it'll be a while before my cholesterol is tested again and I find out.
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#7 Apr 23 2009 at 5:53 AM Rating: Excellent
I actually just got prescribed to Zocor yesterday for cholesterol problems, however I spent the last 1.5 years trying to fix my problem with diet & exercise. Initially my doc thought I was borderline diabetic because of very high triglyceride levels, but after I shed about 15 lbs in a 3 month period and heavily changed my diet for the better, my cholesterol wasn't dropping, and triglycerides where still higher than expected.

Some of it is genetics and in some ways, unavoidable through diet & exercise. I'm now on Zocor and take an Alpha-blocking blood pressure medication daily as well. I'm only 29, which is irregular, but even with the diet & exercise I can't get things down to normal levels. Instead of waiting another year he decided to get me on the cholesterol meds now to nip it in the butt. I don't necessarily like prescription meds, but I can understand & agree with their use if non-med approaches are taken first.
#8 Apr 23 2009 at 6:21 AM Rating: Excellent
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nip it in the butt.


Well there's your problem. Smiley: laugh The phrase is "nip it in the bud", as in, don't allow it to flower.

No meds here, and I agree with Nexa that your former doctor sounds like a better fit. It's good that you've established a relationship with someone closer in case of emergencies, but for routine stuff I'd go back to the other one.

The "are your prescriptions all up to date?" question is pretty routine, though, for most doctors. She's probably just in the habit of saying it as patients leave.

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#9 Apr 23 2009 at 6:25 AM Rating: Decent
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Ryneguy wrote:

Some of it is genetics and in some ways, unavoidable through diet & exercise. I'm now on Zocor and take an Alpha-blocking blood pressure medication daily as well. I'm only 29, which is irregular, but even with the diet & exercise I can't get things down to normal levels. Instead of waiting another year he decided to get me on the cholesterol meds now to nip it in the butt. I don't necessarily like prescription meds, but I can understand & agree with their use if non-med approaches are taken first.
My cubby neighbor had a heart attack last year at 49. He wasn't 'at risk' for heart disease.

I have to have a blood work-up done annually for my job - it checks cholesterol. If not for that I'd probably not even know mine had been inching up for the last decade or so. I don't have any of the other heart disease risk factors. I suspect it's genetic in my case too. My Dad and sis both have had elevated cholesterol readings and neither are overweight or have high BP. I'm a twig and have never 'watched' what I ate - but certainly my activity level has decreased over the last few years.

It scares me to think of an existence without Hot Fudge Sundae lunches:(
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#10 Apr 23 2009 at 6:36 AM Rating: Good
Leo is on a couple cholesterol reducing regimen. I'll ask him about it when he gets up, but from what I remember he went through a bunch of scrips like lipitor, but he always had to stop using them because they screwed with his other meds, made him feel like crap, or didn't work. I think the only things that have consistently worked for him are fish oil capsules (I think he takes those for cholesterol, it's hard to keep track of what he takes for what) and a bowl of oatmeal every morning.
#11 Apr 23 2009 at 6:44 AM Rating: Decent
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Leo is on a couple cholesterol reducing regimen. I'll ask him about it when he gets up, but from what I remember he went through a bunch of scrips like lipitor, but he always had to stop using them because they screwed with his other meds, made him feel like crap, or didn't work. I think the only things that have consistently worked for him are fish oil capsules (I think he takes those for cholesterol, it's hard to keep track of what he takes for what) and a bowl of oatmeal every morning.
Ewwwww, NOT OATMEAL! I'm gonna try Cheerios for bf instead of the cream-cheese loaded bagel I usually have. That should save me a few bucks as well as, hopefully, help keep my arteries flowing freely.

Thanks for the advice everyone.

Lol @ Lipitor:
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Common Side Effects

Headache
Constipation
Diarrhea
Gas
Upset stomach and stomach pain
Rash
Muscle and joint pain
Serious Side Effects

LIPITOR can cause serious side effects. These side effects have happened only to a small number of people. Your doctor can monitor you for them. These side effects usually go away if your dose is lowered or LIPITOR is stopped. These serious side effects include:

Muscle problems. LIPITOR can cause serious muscle problems that can lead to kidney problems, including kidney failure. You have a higher chance for muscle problems if you are taking certain other medicines with LIPITOR.
Liver problems. LIPITOR can cause liver problems. Your doctor may do blood tests to check your liver before you start taking LIPITOR, and while you take it.

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#12 Apr 23 2009 at 6:47 AM Rating: Decent
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I once lowered my cholesterol by diet and intense exercise over a 3-month period. The doctor was a little concerned before I started but wanted me to try it without drugs first. When I came back 3 months later, it was well below the level they like to see at my age. The doctor said keep doing what I'm doing ... low-carb diet (lots of veggies but lots of animal fat, too) and intense exercise 5-6 days a week. I also lost 25 pounds in those 3 months.

I also supplement with vitamins, omega-3's and garlic capsules.

The doctors and dieticians will tell you a low carb diet will drive your cholesterol through the roof ... ********* It may or may not drive YOUR cholesterol one way or the other. There's no reliable science to predict otherwise with respect to a particular person because each person's body chemistry, is different.

We know fat cells use stored fat to produce cholesterol. For an overweight person, I believe the best way to reduce cholesterol is to reduce body fat, regardless of diet.

If you haven't enough body fat to cut ... to hell with you :-)
#13 Apr 23 2009 at 6:59 AM Rating: Good
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Lol @ Lipitor:
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Common Side Effects

LIPITOR can cause serious side effects.


This is what I'm saying.

On a cost to benefit ratio, most drugs just aren't worth it. Except for asprin. Anyone with a hangover or a child needs asprin.
#14 Apr 23 2009 at 7:23 AM Rating: Excellent
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On a cost to benefit ratio, most drugs just aren't worth it.

Ridiculous

#15 Apr 23 2009 at 7:24 AM Rating: Excellent
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Kaelesh wrote:
On a cost to benefit ratio, most drugs just aren't worth it.

Ridiculous


I think he meant legal drugs.

That's the only sensible explanation I can think of.
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#16 Apr 23 2009 at 7:37 AM Rating: Decent
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RedPhoenixxx wrote:
trickybeck wrote:
Kaelesh wrote:
On a cost to benefit ratio, most drugs just aren't worth it.

Ridiculous


I think he meant legal drugs.

That's the only sensible explanation I can think of.
Just curious - does pot have any cholesterol reducing side effects?
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#17 Apr 23 2009 at 7:47 AM Rating: Good
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RedPhoenixxx wrote:
trickybeck wrote:
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On a cost to benefit ratio, most drugs just aren't worth it.

Ridiculous


I think he meant legal drugs.

That's the only sensible explanation I can think of.
Just curious - does pot have any cholesterol reducing side effects?


Not that I know of. But even if it did, surely that effect would be overridden by the amount of crap you eat when the munchies hit you.

I'm 70kgs for 1m80, so I'm quite ignorant about cholesterol. Isn't there "good" cholesterol and "bad" cholesterol, though? Like bacterias?
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#18 Apr 23 2009 at 7:55 AM Rating: Decent
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RedPhoenixxx wrote:

I'm 70kgs for 1m80, so I'm quite ignorant about cholesterol. Isn't there "good" cholesterol and "bad" cholesterol, though? Like bacterias?
Umm, as of yesterday I was 5'3" and 115lbs. Don't be all skinny and complacent!

Yeah, there is good and bad and a target ratio between the two - I guess.
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#19 Apr 23 2009 at 7:58 AM Rating: Good
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skinny and complacent!


This could easily be my epitaph.

I'd prefer "I was just having a nap!", but you don't get to choose these things.
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#20 Apr 23 2009 at 7:59 AM Rating: Good
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skinny and complacent!


This could easily be my epitaph.

I'd prefer "I was just having a nap!", but you don't get to choose these things.
I want mine to read "He died as he lived: fighting swarms of zombie aliens."
#21 Apr 23 2009 at 8:09 AM Rating: Decent
Yeah, I'm on a few things. The only one I'm taking regularly though is the celexa.
#22 Apr 23 2009 at 8:20 AM Rating: Good
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skinny and complacent!


This could easily be my epitaph.

I'd prefer "I was just having a nap!", but you don't get to choose these things.
I want mine to read "He died as he lived: fighting swarms of zombie aliens."


I think gbaji's should be "And one more thing..."
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#23 Apr 23 2009 at 8:22 AM Rating: Excellent
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No, no. Gbaji's should just read, "Heh."

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#24 Apr 23 2009 at 8:24 AM Rating: Good
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No, no. Gbaji's should just read, "Heh."

Or "Look."
#25 Apr 23 2009 at 8:30 AM Rating: Good
Only prescription I take is The Pill (even without the nonproduction benefits of it, I was told to take it because of a too short cycle and debilitating cramps.)

And I have prescription toothpaste and mouthwash, but that's my dentist's desperate effort to try to prevent me from going full titanium implant before I'm 40.
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No, no. Gbaji's should just read, "Heh."



Heh.
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