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#1 Apr 21 2009 at 8:24 AM Rating: Default
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Feinstein sought $25 billion for agency that awarded contract to spouse



http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/21/senate-husbands-firm-cashes-in-on-crisis/


Now it all becomes clear. Democrats force banks to give bad loans. Banks have record number of forclosures. Dems bail out banks. Democrats get 25 billion from US taxpayers to buy up forclosures. Government expands it's control over the private sector.

Change you can believe in.

#2 Apr 21 2009 at 8:38 AM Rating: Good
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Now it all becomes clear. Democrats force banks to give bad loans. Banks have record number of forclosures. Dems bail out banks. Democrats get 25 billion from US taxpayers to buy up forclosures. Government expands it's control over the private sector.


Wow! You've figured it all out! You'll get a Pulitzer for sure now!
#3 Apr 21 2009 at 8:43 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'll have to check it out later. I'm not in a "ten page article" kind of mood at the moment.
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#4 Apr 21 2009 at 10:41 AM Rating: Default
Pultizer prizes go to radical lefties who clamour about global climate change. Not individuals who see blatant cronyism from a political party.

What's funny is you're the same person who cried like a whiny brat about halliburton.

#5 Apr 21 2009 at 11:11 AM Rating: Excellent
Because anyone who works in government is not allowed to have any relatives that do any sort of business or work. Ever.

(Hey, since my cousin chairs the GOP in ND, does this mean can I quit my job? :D It's CRONYISM if I sell anything to anyone that contributed to the RNC!)

BTW: The correct term for giving favors to family members is nepotism. Cronyism is trading favors for favors (i.e. what Blago tried to force people to do in Illinois, and for which Dems and Republicans alike roundly ridiculed him, and rightfully so.)

It's the Washington Times, which means it's already coming from a paranoid right-wing moonie perspective of things. However, the entire thing does have a fishy smell to it. I'll wait and see what a non-WT paper says about it (right now its OMG EXCLUSIVE so it make take a week or two for everyone else to catch up.)
#6 Apr 21 2009 at 11:20 AM Rating: Excellent
Even the title of the article is biased.

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Mr. Duran also said Mr. Blum "is not involved in the day-to-day operations of the company, nor does he have any involvement in the company's contracting."


So they'll insist to insinuate that they should be held accountable and later question why they weren't aware of the seemingly connected contract/legislature, but openly report earlier in the same article that Blum's role in the company makes him unaware provides no direct awareness of the company's contracting?

Eight pages of reading and an entire waste of time. Dog, meet tail...now catch it. Smiley: oyvey

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Edited, Apr 21st 2009 3:22pm by Ryneguy
#7 Apr 21 2009 at 11:25 AM Rating: Excellent
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hangtennow wrote:
What's funny is you're the same person who cried like a whiny brat about halliburton.
According to the forum search, Deathwysh has only mentioned Haliburton once on this forum and it wasn't to cry or whine about it.

You owe someone an apology.
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#8 Apr 21 2009 at 11:27 AM Rating: Excellent
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hangtennow wrote:
Pultizer prizes go to radical lefties who clamour about global climate change. Not individuals who see blatant cronyism from a political party.

What's funny is you're the same person who cried like a whiny brat about halliburton.



Well if you mean complaining about Halliburton being awarded no-bid, cost-plus contracts for things that it turned out they never actually did... yeah that's possible, along with about half the country.

Edited, Apr 21st 2009 3:29pm by Deathwysh
#9 Apr 21 2009 at 12:20 PM Rating: Decent
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Because anyone who works in government is not allowed to have any relatives that do any sort of business or work. Ever.


There are serious conflict of issue problems when that relative is your spouse though. Has something to do with the whole shared finances thing...

I haven't read this particular article, but I'm aware of the background of this thing. It's been floating around the talk circles in California for a year or so now (maybe more). Basically, Feinstein was on a committee which awarded contracts to a company in which her husband had a significant financial interest. This is not itself illegal, but usually the politician would recuse themselves during any decisions regarding the company in question and not only did she not do this, but allegedly was one of the key supporters of funds/contracts to the company in question on the committee.


The larger point is the double standard involved. The same people who were up in arms about Halliburton and Cheney *should* be upset about this, yet oddly... aren't. Mainly that's because no one in the mainstream media seems interested in even looking at the story, much less reporting on it. Which just goes to the point that public "outrage" is largely formed, not by what's really going on, but what they've been told is going on. If the man on your TV screen doesn't tell you about something you should be upset about, you aren't. Kinda obvious, but there is is...

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It's the Washington Times, which means it's already coming from a paranoid right-wing moonie perspective of things.


Didn't I just write a post yesterday about how sources are discounted based pretty much solely on whether we agree with them? I'm pretty sure I did.


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However, the entire thing does have a fishy smell to it. I'll wait and see what a non-WT paper says about it (right now its OMG EXCLUSIVE so it make take a week or two for everyone else to catch up.)


So if the NY Times or CNN doesn't do a story on it, it doesn't exist, right? Just checking...
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#10 Apr 21 2009 at 12:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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hangtennow wrote:
Now it all becomes clear. Democrats force banks to give bad loans. Banks have record number of forclosures. Dems bail out banks. Democrats get 25 billion from US taxpayers to buy up forclosures. Government expands it's control over the private sector.

Change you can believe in.

Genius really. You know, having the foresight to know that Bush was such a fucktard that they'd have every sector of the Federal Government sewn up and could actually be positioned to make this happen at the exact time the economy crumbled as a result.
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#11 Apr 21 2009 at 12:25 PM Rating: Excellent
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I haven't read this particular article, but I'm aware of the background of this thing. It's been floating around the talk circles in California for a year or so now (maybe more).
Different story. Your's was about a military contract, this one is about foreclosed properties (from the one page I started reading).
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#12 Apr 21 2009 at 1:06 PM Rating: Decent
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gbaji wrote:
I haven't read this particular article, but I'm aware of the background of this thing. It's been floating around the talk circles in California for a year or so now (maybe more).
Different story. Your's was about a military contract, this one is about foreclosed properties (from the one page I started reading).


Ah... Well. I'm a bit too busy at work to read it just yet. Not surprising though...
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#13 Apr 21 2009 at 1:24 PM Rating: Excellent
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hangtennow wrote:
Pultizer prizes go to radical lefties who clamour about global climate change. Not individuals who see blatant cronyism from a political party.



ORLY?

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The New York Times' David Barstow won a richly deserved Pulitzer Prize yesterday for two articles that, despite being featured as major news stories on the front page of The Paper of Record, were completely suppressed by virtually every network and cable news show, which to this day have never informed their viewers about what Barstow uncovered. Here is how the Pulitzer Committee described Barstow's exposés:

Awarded to David Barstow of The New York Times for his tenacious reporting that revealed how some retired generals, working as radio and television analysts, had been co-opted by the Pentagon to make its case for the war in Iraq, and how many of them also had undisclosed ties to companies that benefited from policies they defended.


You should read moar.

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#14 Apr 21 2009 at 1:30 PM Rating: Excellent
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Not surprising though...


That you didn't read it and still had 270 words to devote to it?

You're totally right.
#15 Apr 21 2009 at 1:56 PM Rating: Good
I read the article, agreed there was a fishy smell, decided that it was mostly hand wringing and less damning evidence, and then discounted the source because the Washington Times tends to exaggerate things to please their editors.

You didn't even read the article.
#16REDACTED, Posted: Apr 22 2009 at 5:29 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) The simple fact is Democrats are hypocrites who willfully ignore stories that force them to question their leaders. Feinstein is speaker of the house. Do you people even know what that means? The reasons for being perturbed about this should be obvious. That you people see nothing wrong with her behaviour illustrates how little you care for the so called ethical standards you go on and on about. It's also the reason we're not hearing about Iraq on tv, unless it's good news, or about the search for Bin laden or Gitmo, which is still open and operating a full capacity. But let's focus our attention on demonizing those who believe in states rights, lower taxes, anti-abortion, and pro-military.
#17 Apr 22 2009 at 5:46 AM Rating: Good
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The simple fact is Democrats are hypocrites who willfully ignore stories that force them to question their leaders. Feinstein is speaker of the house. Do you people even know what that means? The reasons for being perturbed about this should be obvious. That you people see nothing wrong with her behaviour illustrates how little you care for the so called ethical standards you go on and on about. It's also the reason we're not hearing about Iraq on tv, unless it's good news, or about the search for Bin laden or Gitmo, which is still open and operating a full capacity. But let's focus our attention on demonizing those who believe in states rights, lower taxes, anti-abortion, and pro-military.


I love how you ignored whatever the pubbies were doing when Bush was in office. Also, I'm a lefty, but I believe in states rights, necessary but equal taxes(to pay for **** that's needed, and equal as in, everyone pays the same percentage of what they make as taxes). I'm also pro-abortion and pro-military.

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Suicide...right.


Wanna back this one up? Now you're just making assumptions based on nothing.

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#18 Apr 22 2009 at 5:54 AM Rating: Excellent
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Suicide...right.


Let's hear it, Sherlock! Was it Prof. Plum in the Study with the lead pipe? Smiley: lol
#19 Apr 22 2009 at 6:02 AM Rating: Excellent
Feinstein is not speaker of the house. That's Pelosi.

http://speaker.house.gov/
#20 Apr 22 2009 at 6:10 AM Rating: Good
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hangtennow wrote:
Feinstein is speaker of the house.


Smiley: lol Smiley: lol Smiley: lol Smiley: lol


Are we supposed to take you seriously when you can't even get the most basic and checkable of facts straight?

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Do you people even know what that means?


Sure. But apparently you don't.

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hangtennow wrote:
we're not hearing about Iraq on tv, unless it's good news
Nonsense. There's been a string of suicide bombings in Iraq over the last two weeks killing 7-15 people at a shot (and wonding several times that). The fact that you're ignorant doesn't mean that the media isn't reporting it -- you're just have your eyes too scrunched with your ravings and screamings to see what's on the news.
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#22REDACTED, Posted: Apr 22 2009 at 10:05 AM, Rating: Unrated, (Expand Post) My bad I was confusing Pelosi with Feinstein.
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hangtennow wrote:
Jophed,

BS...The big 3 are not covering anything that has to do with Iraq that could put Obama in a bad light.
Right. All my news comes from incredibly esoteric sources. Mainly involving the casting of bones, observation of avian flight patterns and the dripping of wax into clear water.
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#25 Apr 22 2009 at 11:23 AM Rating: Excellent
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hangtennow wrote:
The simple fact is Democrats are hypocrites who willfully ignore stories that force them to question their leaders. Feinstein is speaker of the house. Do you people even know what that means? The reasons for being perturbed about this should be obvious. That you people see nothing wrong with her behaviour illustrates how little you care for the so called ethical standards you go on and on about. It's also the reason we're not hearing about Iraq on tv, unless it's good news, or about the search for Bin laden or Gitmo, which is still open and operating a full capacity. But let's focus our attention on demonizing those who believe in states rights, lower taxes, anti-abortion, and pro-military.

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Freddie Mac official found dead in apparent suicide


Suicide...right.

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Freddie Mac and sibling company Fannie Mae, which together own or back more than half of the home mortgages in the country, have been hobbled by skyrocketing loan defaults and have received about $60 billion in combined federal aid.



Now let's go back to my earlier statement;

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Now it all becomes clear. Democrats force banks to give bad loans. Banks have record number of forclosures. Dems bail out banks. Democrats get 25 billion from US taxpayers to buy up forclosures. Government expands it's control over the private sector.


Good grief, you're nutty as squirrel poo!
#26 Apr 22 2009 at 11:36 AM Rating: Excellent
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hangtennow wrote:
cast Obama in a bad light
Care to define this term before we play the "DOESN'T COUNT!! DOESN'T COUNT!!" game?

Furthermore, you're running around, moving the goalposts. Presumably because you already know you're wrong. What you SAID was:
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It's also the reason we're not hearing about Iraq on tv, unless it's good news, or about the search for Bin laden...
(Bolding mine)

Well, that was hard.

Nothing says "good news" like suicide bombers and attacks on the Green Zone, right?
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