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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HECMVdl-9SQ
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HECMVdl-9SQ
Nice work boys!
"If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders". Carlin.
I read about that on the way to work and was pretty outraged that they would attack a guy who was simply walking home from work.
...However having seen the video, he clearly wasnt just walking home from work at all but causing grief. Do I condone what was done? No, it was an over-reactive force given what the guy was doing-- but I can also think of what is going through that bobbies mind when he did it.
It was a tradgedy that he died, and he really didnt deserve shoving over as forcefully but did need to be moved as he was obviously obstructing. The rest though is good old media fanaticism. It was hardly brutality.
...However having seen the video, he clearly wasnt just walking home from work at all but causing grief. Do I condone what was done? No, it was an over-reactive force given what the guy was doing-- but I can also think of what is going through that bobbies mind when he did it.
It was a tradgedy that he died, and he really didnt deserve shoving over as forcefully but did need to be moved as he was obviously obstructing. The rest though is good old media fanaticism. It was hardly brutality.
Those clothes?!?!?!?!
He deserved to die
He deserved to die
"I started out with nothin' and I still got most of it left" - Seasick Steve
Kordain wrote:
...However having seen the video, he clearly wasnt just walking home from work at all but causing grief. Do I condone what was done? No, it was an over-reactive force given what the guy was doing-- but I can also think of what is going through that bobbies mind when he did it.
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He was walking with his back to the cops with his hands in his pockets. Im trying to understand what threat you think he was posing to anyone (other than his fashion sense).
I imagine what was going thru the coppers mind was :
"who's this arrogant (badly dressed) f*ck? Why isn't he scared of me? I know! I'll whack him on the legs wiv me baton, and push the c*nt over ...that'll teach 'im, *************
Protect and serve and all that!
"If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders". Carlin.
Is there more video? I'm trying to figure out how a simple push ended up in death.
Kordain wrote:
I read about that on the way to work and was pretty outraged that they would attack a guy who was simply walking home from work.
...However having seen the video, he clearly wasnt just walking home from work at all but causing grief. Do I condone what was done? No, it was an over-reactive force given what the guy was doing-- but I can also think of what is going through that bobbies mind when he did it.
It was a tradgedy that he died, and he really didnt deserve shoving over as forcefully but did need to be moved as he was obviously obstructing. The rest though is good old media fanaticism. It was hardly brutality.
...However having seen the video, he clearly wasnt just walking home from work at all but causing grief. Do I condone what was done? No, it was an over-reactive force given what the guy was doing-- but I can also think of what is going through that bobbies mind when he did it.
It was a tradgedy that he died, and he really didnt deserve shoving over as forcefully but did need to be moved as he was obviously obstructing. The rest though is good old media fanaticism. It was hardly brutality.
Is there more to the video? I can't see what the hell you're talking about. I think the police here were a bit adrenaline rushed to react with the crowd they went there for. He might have needed to move but he was moving. Completely uncalled for and the cop who pushed him should be charged.
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Is there more video? I'm trying to figure out how a simple push ended up in death.
People die all the time from even the smallest of falls. Others fall from higher heights and surprisingly live. It's just a matter of where you take the blow to the head. It really doesn't take much if you hit the right spot.
Not great, but the British police in general is pretty top notch. Off the top of my head, I can think of roughly 150 national police forces that are worse. Maybe 180.
There should be someone to police the police though, for sure. Someone with a bit more power than the Independent Police Complains Commission. A gigantic mutant crab with rotating laz0rs, perhaps.
There should be someone to police the police though, for sure. Someone with a bit more power than the Independent Police Complains Commission. A gigantic mutant crab with rotating laz0rs, perhaps.
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Whatever, if those traiter protest **** hadn't instigated the whole situation to begin with no one would have been hurt. We need to outlaw these kind of protests here in the U.S..
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There should be someone to police the police though, for sure. Someone with a bit more power than the Independent Police Complains Commission. A gigantic mutant crab with rotating laz0rs, perhaps.
Watchmen?
Edited, Apr 8th 2009 8:32pm by Timelordwho
Just as Planned.
The only way to possibly stop protests is to kill everyone who shows up.
Yet death still isn't a deterant for protesting as we saw in the news a few months ago with those monks.
People have a voice and it should be heard. Even if you don't believe in what they are protesting for, their voice should still be heard.
I would prefer to live in a country where people can protest than a country where everyone is living in a dream world pretending everything is as they want.
Yet death still isn't a deterant for protesting as we saw in the news a few months ago with those monks.
People have a voice and it should be heard. Even if you don't believe in what they are protesting for, their voice should still be heard.
I would prefer to live in a country where people can protest than a country where everyone is living in a dream world pretending everything is as they want.
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Is there more video? I'm trying to figure out how a simple push ended up in death.
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People die all the time from even the smallest of falls. Others fall from higher heights and surprisingly live. It's just a matter of where you take the blow to the head. It really doesn't take much if you hit the right spot.
50+ fat guy dies of a heart attack in a high stress situation but because some cop pushed him when he was ignoring instructions repeatedly and it's thier fault.
He was probably stressed out because he couldn't get home and then got further stressed out because the cops though he was a G20 protester pulling a fast one and had a heart attack.
Due to stress.
Edited, Apr 9th 2009 1:23am by tarv
Baron von tarv wrote:
He was probably stressed out because he couldn't get home and then got further stressed out because the cops though he was a G20 protester pulling a fast one and had a heart attack.
Due to stress.
Edited, Apr 9th 2009 1:23am by tarv
Euthanasia then, really?
Not sure thats actually in the police job description, but I guess they could add it in....
"If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders". Carlin.
The cop has come forward, and will almost certainly be fired, and quite rightly too. I also hope he's prosecuted too. If I shoved over every lardy **** who blocks the pavement I'd be a very busy chap.
Regardless of the outcome of his action, it was an unreasonably ill-tempered way to treat a member of the public. The guy was being an annoying ****, but the cop was disproportionately aggressive.
As for the guy's death? Totally irrelevant. Sad, but the blame appears to lie in Fish and Chip shops, not the police.
Regardless of the outcome of his action, it was an unreasonably ill-tempered way to treat a member of the public. The guy was being an annoying ****, but the cop was disproportionately aggressive.
As for the guy's death? Totally irrelevant. Sad, but the blame appears to lie in Fish and Chip shops, not the police.
"I started out with nothin' and I still got most of it left" - Seasick Steve
Oh, I dunno. If you rob someone here and they die of a heart attack in the process, they can charge you with murder. Even if he was mainlining sour cream at the time.
Baron von tarv wrote:
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Is there more video? I'm trying to figure out how a simple push ended up in death.
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People die all the time from even the smallest of falls. Others fall from higher heights and surprisingly live. It's just a matter of where you take the blow to the head. It really doesn't take much if you hit the right spot.
Which I didn't know. But my point is still stands. Just look at what's her name, last week's news.
MentalFrog wrote:
Baron von tarv wrote:
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Is there more video? I'm trying to figure out how a simple push ended up in death.
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People die all the time from even the smallest of falls. Others fall from higher heights and surprisingly live. It's just a matter of where you take the blow to the head. It really doesn't take much if you hit the right spot.
Which I didn't know. But my point is still stands. Just look at what's her name, last week's news.
Too busy looking at your avatar. I love it.
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Regardless of the outcome of his action, it was an unreasonably ill-tempered way to treat a member of the public. The guy was being an annoying ****, but the cop was disproportionately aggressive.
All joking aside those G20 protesters are literally the scum of the earth and deserve a good kicking for even breathing.
Baron von tarv wrote:
those G20 protesters are literally the scum of the earth and deserve a good kicking for even breathing.
"I started out with nothin' and I still got most of it left" - Seasick Steve
Tsk, that British police, they gun down people who are running to catch their tram and now kill a guy who decides to not run from them. There's just no pleasing them!
Seriously though, that guy was a bit foolish though, you do not antagonise the police in any way during protest marches like this. That push was excessive though and by no means did he deserve to die at all naturally.
Edited, Apr 9th 2009 10:41pm by Zieveraar
Seriously though, that guy was a bit foolish though, you do not antagonise the police in any way during protest marches like this. That push was excessive though and by no means did he deserve to die at all naturally.
Edited, Apr 9th 2009 10:41pm by Zieveraar
Wow. That's pretty ridiculous. Dude was just ambling along, maybe it was his fault he happened to walk across the path of half a dozen cops in riot gear?
I had assumed that the fatal injury was caused by not being able to catch himself, but he did get his hands free on the way down. Cops are aSSholeS.
No offense to the cops in my family
I had assumed that the fatal injury was caused by not being able to catch himself, but he did get his hands free on the way down. Cops are aSSholeS.
No offense to the cops in my family
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
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Wow. That's pretty ridiculous. Dude was just ambling along (Wrong), maybe it was his fault he happened to walk across the path of half a dozen cops in riot gear (yes it was, he had been told already to go another way)?
I had assumed that the fatal injury was caused by not being able to catch himself(Wrong), but he did get his hands free on the way down. Cops are ********(Wrong).
I had assumed that the fatal injury was caused by not being able to catch himself(Wrong), but he did get his hands free on the way down. Cops are ********(Wrong).
I spoke to a friend who was in London on the day in that area the police stopped everyone moving in the direction of the protestors to go back the way they came to the nearest tube station and not to go into the area where the G20 protestors where rioting and destroying property.
It has been confirmed by the Media that the guy in question was stopped 15 minutes before from travelling through that area and told to do what my friend was told.
He ignored them and tried to get past the police.
The push had exactly ZERO to do with his fatal heart attack 5 minutes later, that was everything to do with his 20 years of poor diet and no exercise.
Baron von tarv wrote:
The push had exactly ZERO to do with his fatal heart attack 5 minutes later, that was everything to do with his 20 years of poor diet and no exercise.
While I'm not sure the police should be held accountable, you can't really claim it to be a coincidence that he's pushed down, in the midst of what could well appear to be an imminent riot, and generally abused by these officers, and just happens to have a heart attack five minutes later. Somehow I imagine the stress of the incident was at least a minor factor here.
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While I'm not sure the police should be held accountable, you can't really claim it to be a coincidence that he's pushed down, in the midst of what could well appear to be an imminent riot, and generally abused by these officers, and just happens to have a heart attack five minutes later. Somehow I imagine the stress of the incident was at least a minor factor here.
The guy was a dead man walking because he ate sh*t food and didn't exercise, you can't lay that at the feet of a riot cop in the middle of a fUcking riot.
Majivo wrote:
...you can't really claim it to be a coincidence that he's pushed down, in the midst of what could well appear to be an imminent riot, and generally abused by these officers, and just happens to have a heart attack five minutes later.
You can't? Who did? I didn't see anyone making that claim.
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While I'm not sure the police should be held accountable, you can't really claim it to be a coincidence that he's pushed down, in the midst of what could well appear to be an imminent riot, and generally abused by these officers, and just happens to have a heart attack five minutes later. Somehow I imagine the stress of the incident was at least a minor factor here.
The guy was a dead man walking because he ate sh*t food and didn't exercise, you can't lay that at the feet of a riot cop in the middle of a fUcking riot.
Which is what I said, that the police shouldn't really be held accountable. This guy was going to die from heart disease regardless, and probably soon. Somehow I imagine that what happened here was a bit more stressful than something like you're giving out, though.
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You can't? Who did? I didn't see anyone making that claim.
If tarv says that the push had "zero" to do with the man's heart attack, then yeah, that's what we like to call a coincidence - correlation rather than causation, as Smash might say.
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All joking aside those G20 protesters are literally the scum of the earth and deserve a good kicking for even breathing.
Sweet, so I'll come to your house and kick the sh*t out of you for indirectly protesting against G-20 protesters.
Edited, Apr 9th 2009 8:16pm by redbarronthesecond
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