Xsarus wrote:
Just you wait, she'll end up being a devout Christian and pray for you every night. 
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Not Catholic, though. You need some sense of tradition to be a good Catholic. The late bloomers all become Evangelicals.
Belkira wrote:
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Jophiel wrote:
Xsarus wrote:
Just you wait, she'll end up being a devout Christian and pray for you every night.
Edited, Mar 31st 2009 5:42pm by Xsarus
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Not Catholic, though. You need some sense of tradition to be a good Catholic.
She might meet Uncle Bill at some point, so don't rule that out just yet.
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Just you wait, she'll end up being a devout Christian and pray for you every night.
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Smasharoo wrote:
She might meet Uncle Bill at some point, so don't rule that out just yet.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
My mom was one of these mythical Catholic liberals. She got as far as postulate in the convent before decided she was tired of being treated like dirt as a nun, so she ran off and joined the Army instead. (Where she met my dad, so I'm glad.)
She was a labor Democrat from Detroit, and while she was a superficially devout Catholic, she also believed in UFOs and Roswell aliens. I think the only reason she went to church at all was, as Smash said, for the sense of community.
(I'm a lapsed Catholic. I left when I turned 18 and discovered I didn't believe in the religion at all, I just thought the music was pretty. Doh!)
Also, one of the last things I heard my mom say was that she hated the new Pope and didn't think he was really the person ordained by God. HERESY!
She was a labor Democrat from Detroit, and while she was a superficially devout Catholic, she also believed in UFOs and Roswell aliens. I think the only reason she went to church at all was, as Smash said, for the sense of community.
(I'm a lapsed Catholic. I left when I turned 18 and discovered I didn't believe in the religion at all, I just thought the music was pretty. Doh!)
Also, one of the last things I heard my mom say was that she hated the new Pope and didn't think he was really the person ordained by God. HERESY!
Is the article (and Poll) referring to American Catholics (as in the American Catholic Church in the United States), or to Roman Catholics in America? I suppose I could look for myself, but that would really cut into my laying around time.
Edited, Mar 31st 2009 8:37pm by Deathwysh
Edited, Mar 31st 2009 8:37pm by Deathwysh
Er, they're the same, unless you count Roman Catholics in Mexico as being part of "American" Catholics.
I was always under the impression that Catholics were conservative and Republican. But, I am a bit of an idiot...
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
Comparing the small and anecdotal personal samples I can provide, catholics that I know are almost universally more progressive and socially minded than other christians I meet.
Catholics also have better theology. Maybe that's because they've been doing it longer than the protestant tradition, but it's a lot more fun to study.
Catholics also have better theology. Maybe that's because they've been doing it longer than the protestant tradition, but it's a lot more fun to study.
Pensive wrote:
Comparing the small and anecdotal personal samples I can provide, catholics that I know are almost universally more progressive and socially minded than other christians I meet.
Catholics also have better theology. Maybe that's because they've been doing it longer than the protestant tradition, but it's a lot more fun to study.
Catholics also have better theology. Maybe that's because they've been doing it longer than the protestant tradition, but it's a lot more fun to study.
Well, that kinda of depends on what text you are based off of. If you think the Catholic bible is more legitimate, including the Apocryphal books then your position make sense. If you think the protestant version of the Bible is more accurate, then Catholic theology has serious flaws.
edit: terminology
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He's talking about how interesting it is, not the legitimacy.
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Well, that kinda of depends on what text you are based off of. If you think the Catholic bible is more legitimate, including the Apocryphal books then your position make sense. If you think the protestant version of the Bible is more accurate, then Catholic theology has serious flaws.
Not really... I don't believe that either one is "legitimate"
Something like the Summa Theologica is more interesting to me than Fear and Trembling.
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And I mean mostly non-canonical or supplementary theological work rather than scripture.
Edited, Apr 1st 2009 12:50am by Pensive
Smasharoo wrote:
I think this stems from the doctrine that once a Catholic, always a Catholic. If a Lutheran says "nuts to this" and leaves, he's just not a Lutheran any longer. When a Catholic leaves, they're considered (by the Church anyway) a Catholic who's currently AWOL.
They're going to have a loooong fucking wait for me to be unlapsed.
Most American Catholics just like the sense of community belonging. I'd wager a good third them don't genuinely believe in God, but think telling their children to is the right thing to do.
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I was raised Catholic and confirmed Catholic. Now 20 years later I am an avowed atheist. I believe for most people it is just tradition, they don't know what else to do.
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Jophiel wrote:
I know Catholics tend to lean Democratic as a bloc but mainly because of blue-collar support for labor and that sort of thing. I wonder if there's an effect where supporting the Democratic candidate has caused Catholics to be exposed to more socially liberal views or if it's something else entirely. Anyway, kind of interesting, I thought.
It's actually much simpler than that. Our religion says it's cool to believe in space aliens, so we're pretty open to tons of ideas folks with more backwards religions aren't.
It seems that Catholicism is more like almost an ethnicity, something you're born into, than a hard set of beliefs for most practitioners. Its very passive. You go to church one sunday (or twice a year) and standup-sitdown-fight-fight-fight and you're done.
The real religious nutjobs aren't catholics, they're the ones who go to little new-age christian churches with no tradition, culture, or history. The only thing motivating them to go is their hard core beliefs.
This has been true for a very long time, I don't see how it is news.
The real religious nutjobs aren't catholics, they're the ones who go to little new-age christian churches with no tradition, culture, or history. The only thing motivating them to go is their hard core beliefs.
This has been true for a very long time, I don't see how it is news.
I imagine the "news" is two-fold. One is that Catholics, despite belonging to a faith with a conservative dogma, are considerably more liberal than other Christian sects. The second being that Catholics are, in some spheres, more liberal than the general population. Even if Catholics as a rule didn't care about about their faith (this obviously isn't true for all Catholics) they should, all other things being equal, score along the average.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
I just wanted to post as an admin once.
Religion count...
I'm still curious how many of you actually believe in God.
I'm still curious how many of you actually believe in God.
hangtennow wrote:
Religion count...
I'm still curious how many of you actually believe in God.
I'm still curious how many of you actually believe in God.
Define 'God'.
"If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders". Carlin.
catwho the Pest wrote:
Er, they're the same, unless you count Roman Catholics in Mexico as being part of "American" Catholics.
Umm. Yeah.
No, they're not.
The American Catholic church is not part of the Roman Catholic Church. AC Priests can marry. RC Priests can't. They're are a host of other differences as well, but generally speaking the AC church is generally more liberal then the RC Church.
hangtennow wrote:
pauly,
I have a better idea why don't you say whether you believe in God and then clarify your personal view of God, if in fact you believe.
I have a better idea why don't you say whether you believe in God and then clarify your personal view of God, if in fact you believe.
I asked first. Use as many words as you like......
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Deathwysh wrote:
Umm. Yeah.
No, they're not.
The American Catholic church is not part of the Roman Catholic Church. AC Priests can marry. RC Priests can't. They're are a host of other differences as well, but generally speaking the AC church is generally more liberal then the RC Church.
No, they're not.
The American Catholic church is not part of the Roman Catholic Church. AC Priests can marry. RC Priests can't. They're are a host of other differences as well, but generally speaking the AC church is generally more liberal then the RC Church.
Besides which, no one cares about the American Catholic church. A Gallup poll on their views wouldn't exactly make their front page.
Belkira wrote:
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