Prop 8, brah!Follow

Wow, when did Totem go blue? That's some pretty dedicated camping right there...


Heh.

I wasn't lurking back then.

Nonsense

Pubbies are dependent on the Idiot Vote (Read: Bigoted Moron) that has created the Christain Right and the marraige (Or should I say "Civil Union") of the Christian Right and the Republican Party is they only way they have of winning any sort of election.


However, this is met with an obvious intellectual dishonesty, you can't have small government AND get the support of the Christian Right; it's just not possible. Interestingly enough, while they [Republicans] continue to raw-fuck the Bible on stage and make religion a big hoopla in the political scene, they lose the 2nd largest Religious affiliation in the US outright; the Atheist. If the marraige with the Christian Right isn't enough to drive Atheists to Democrats then the party's stance on issues such as Stem-Cell, Abortion, and Death Penalty pretty much drives the final nails in the coffin. While I'm sure there are Atheist Conservatives in the world, they are very few and far between.


This dishonesty goes largely ignored because of who the Republican Party markets to. It's Nixonian tactics at it's core. Reagan perfected it. Instead of platforming on actual issues, they go about making sure the other Candidate looks like a bag of dog shit even if it goes unmerited. The McCain campaign failed so miserably because they did not properly ignite the Christian Religion. Republicans have to campaign this way, they learned this after FDR, and Truman's ultimate success. Elsewise they would suffer whole generations of losses to FDR's and Truman's. This shift was of course to play at the core of over 75% (at the time) of America; Religion.

To their credit, the plot worked, at least for a while. Soon enough the Baby-Boomers will die off and from their loins a generation of 30-somthings have risen. This generation is not so traditional, not so religiously-minded (This is what we call "Religious Moderates" another joke in itself but I'll save that for another thread), and not so closed-minded. A Generation much more different than it's Baby-Boomer counterparts. This is made evident by the utter failure that is the current Republican Party. A Party that has absolutely no spine nor does it have any clue as to why they are getting their asses kicked not only in presidential elections, but loosing Senate and House seats faster than Paris Hilton looses sex tapes.

All this though, isn't really the fault of Liberals, even though the Republican Party leader Rush Limbaugh (ba-dum-bum-ching) might disagree, this error falls squarely on their own lap. How? Because they believe political tactics used in the 1970's are still some how valid in the 21st century. Maybe Gbaji's dream might come true, a band of Conservatives will retake the party and kick all the religious bigots out, who knows. Even then, if they do, they'll have to prove it, and the only way to do so will be to support *gasp* Democrats on issues such as Stem-Cell, Abortion, Gay Rights, and Death Penalty but promote fiscal conservatism. I wouldn't bet a dirty pair of boxers on it, but hell, it could happen.

If they manage to do this, then they could be about small government and appeal to all religious (or lack thereof) factions across the board.

Wow. Just... wow.

In an alternate universe, Naughty, you'd make a fantastic McCarthy-like figure intent on blacklisting or worse, Gitmo-ing all these "idiot-voters" who apparently aren't smart enough to recognise the all-encompassing brilliance of your take on politics. Maybe, just maybe this Idiot Vote is not so much stupid, but a cause-effect reaction to the overweening pomposity of those like yourself who, rather than convince with sound logic and sweet argument, berate and attempt to beat about the head and shoulders of those who disagree with you-- for what ever reason they may have, religious, political, financial, or otherwise.

Seriously, you appear to be fairly smart. You write reasonably well, can put together several thoughts coherently, and even argue with tenacity. But the gross blanketizations you throw out to cover vast portions of ideology and the people who adhere to such views utterly defeats anything you might have to say. Furthermore, while I do the same thing-- perhaps moreso --mine is obviously tongue-in-cheek and meant as satire in the form of jamming my big black thumb in the liberal's eye. After all, anybody who really knows me realizes I don't reflect my online persona in any way. Yours, from all appearances comes from a sincere and heartfelt belief in the rightness of what you're saying.

Like I said: Wow.

No wonder there is a significant portion of America that resists your line of politics. If I were talked to and about in such derogatory terms, I'd be sorely tempted to vote contrarian just to stuff it in your face.

Totem

It has worked for decades for the Republican Party, what, can't handle the taste of your own medicine?





Translation: I've no retort.





They say, excuses are like assholes you know.




A fair assessment. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't politics at it's very core, a matter of belief and opinion? With such question, would we all be right until proven otherwise with personal proof?



Speaking of alternate universes as you did in your Ad Hominem attack, what if in this alternate universe Atheists composed 75% of the US population? Where would the current Republican Party be then? HAHAHAHA!

That really should shoot a hole in Republicanism right there.

Edited, Mar 31st 2009 6:23am by NaughtyWord

Yay, we win!

At that time, we can take our act on the road and visit the Free Republic forums.

Way to catch half the population (the better half) in your crossfire. Does your wife know you hate women so?

It's not stupid, it's...outdated. It has failed to modernize. You shouldn't treat basic Republican principles as stupid, seeing as their existence forms an essential part of a democracy, i.e. a dissenting opinion. America wouldn't magically turn into a fairytale land of pure intellectual happiness and joy if you gave it thirty-two years of consecutive Democrat presidents. It'd just be a democracy where people don't need to argue about fundamental points of their ideology any more. What happens when one party dominates government for a period of several decades? They stagnate, that's what happens.

I mean, I'm a left-wing university student and I can't do anything but disagree with what NaughtyWord said. It's narrow-minded, facetious, and superficial. It puts up a great big straw man labeled "GOP" and invites everyone to boo at it. It's as partisan as some of the **** that gbaji and paulsol spew sometimes.



I'll repeat; he doesn't hate women. He just treats them in a way that is three decades out of fashion. He treats homosexuals in a way that is three decades out of fashion. He treats Iran in a way that is three decades out of fashion. Three decades ago, everything Totem said would be A-OK.

Ignore the post above. I am everything he says except the good hearted stuff. I am whiskey soaked evil (thank you again, Anna! That brings a tear to my eye). I am possessed by the spirit of D1<k Cheney. I ********** to the picture of Richard Nixon and pre-teen LBFMs running down the road with napalm burns. I chuckle and clap my hands with glee when I see another another weather disaster looming where the Federal government can respond badly. I vote Republican.

/gasp!

Totem

Perhaps it needs something new. Something fresh. Some sort of off the hook hip-hop vibe.

You can!

I used to love 3rd Rock.