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#1 Mar 21 2009 at 1:59 PM Rating: Good

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I was a little shocked to be reading this.

AIG, lack of instant cash support to ordinary Americans and media overkill all seem to have hurt his image and perception of progress.
I was interested, what do Asylumites feel? Is this really the feeling rippling through America right now and it is the end of the Honeymoon?

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WHEN the White House announced last week that President Barack Obama will be returning to the nationâ€™s television screens on Tuesday for a prime-time press conference that will postpone the latest episode of American Idol - the talent show watched by 25m viewers - fans of the programme were quick to respond.

â€œStop, please stop, Mr O, we canâ€™t take much more,â€ one angry viewer wrote on an Idol-related website. â€œNot again!â€ complained another. â€œItâ€™s the same speech heâ€™s been giving for the past year.â€

There were dark mutterings that by commandeering evening programming only a few days after he appeared on Jay Lenoâ€™s popular late-night chat show, Obama was â€œjust like Fidel Castro [of Cuba] and Hugo Chavez [of Venezuela] - always on camera, always giving speeches and lecturingâ€.

The barbed response to the prospect of yet another mass-media dose of Obamaâ€™s economic prescriptions underlined the dangers the president is facing as he struggles to sell his recovery efforts to a country seething with anger and anxiety over the costs, effectiveness and potential abuse of the governmentâ€™s trillion-dollar bailout programme.

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I don't feel that way, then again I don't watch TV.

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From what Doctor Goebbels has taught me about propaganda, it's important not to overexpose your message. People get what I call "care fatigue" about anything if they see it enough. You don't want people (*** here) to say "Oh, not ~~Hitler~~Obama again" when they turn on the ~~radio~~television. Let them have their atrocious reality televsion. If propoganda is boring, then it is ineffectual.

#4 REDACTED, Posted: Mar 21 2009 at 2:27 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) President Obama is already a FAILED PRESIDENCY. He is a pathological liar that never stops lying. He always claims great wisdom and work, where he has none and has done none. Obama is so cute as goes bowling, turns the White House fountains green for his Holloween party, and reveal is cruel bigotry on the Tonight Show. But, Obama is fiddling while the economy burns. Obama is so arrogant that he will destroy the country before admitting that he is wrong about hiring tax cheats for his cabinet; wrong to run up $9 Trillion deficits over the next ten years; wrong to spend $1 Trillion on his Stimulas and Pork Bill instead of using that $1 Trillion to fix the banking system; wrong to push so many families into miserable poverty just because obama want to exploit this recession as long as he can.

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Gallup's approval numbers for Obama are at 64% and have been hovering in the 60-65% range for the last month or so. So, no, I don't think support for him has significantly dropped off.

I would guess that perhaps people who post on American Idol fansites aren't representative of the rest of the nation.

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Jophiel wrote:

Gallup's approval numbers for Obama are at 64% and have been hovering in the 60-65% range for the last month or so. So, no, I don't think support for him has significantly dropped off.

I would guess that perhaps people who post on American Idol fansites aren't representative of the rest of the nation.

varrus probably hasn't even been banned once from there!

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Who cares what a bunch of angry American Idol fans think?

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#8 Mar 21 2009 at 5:28 PM Rating: Default

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Obama's honeymoon over?

In a word? Yep.

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They're people who watch Idol. No-one cares what they think, they're retards.

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Totem wrote:

Obama's honeymoon over?

In a word? Yep.

Totem thinks that America is viewing Obama critically and Obama still has a 64% approval rating. Totem must think highly of our Commander-in-Chief! Smiley: thumbsup

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Obamas honeymoon over?

Well, duh. He's been married for how many years now? I doubt the honeymoon lasted more than a few weeks at most, back in 1992. What a silly question.

#12 Mar 22 2009 at 12:02 AM Rating: Good

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WHEN the White House announced last week that President Barack Obama will be returning to the nationâ€™s television screens on Tuesday for a prime-time press conference that will postpone the latest episode of American Idol - the talent show watched by 25m viewers - fans of the programme were quick to respond.

At least it won't preempt the Simpsons like they do for every big sporting event.

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#13 Mar 22 2009 at 9:39 AM Rating: Good

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I dunno, I like having a president that not only addresses us frequently, he speaks to us as though we are adults.

Bush? Every time he appeared on screen, I turned it off on disgust after five minutes. It gave me a headache listening to him. The ignorance dribbled.

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Jophiel wrote:

Gallup's approval numbers for Obama are at 64% and have been hovering in the 60-65% range for the last month or so. So, no, I don't think support for him has significantly dropped off.

I would guess that perhaps people who post on American Idol fansites aren't representative of the rest of the nation.

Ha, thank you. Which news site should I be looking at for a balanced US centric viewpoint?

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GwynapNud the Eccentric wrote:

Ha, thank you. Which news site should I be looking at for a balanced US centric viewpoint?

Dancing with the Stars? Smiley: oyvey

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I would definitely read the Times for complete, unbiased coverage of American politics.

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29818063/

Just like those of us on the Right predicted-- all those rainbows and unicorns you Lefties were devouring like grade school kids eating candy, cake, and soda at a birthday party were bound to come back up on you. You can't maintain a diet of liberal campaign promises and expect not to be sick shortly thereafter once the sugar high wears off.

Change we can believe in my a$$.

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For now at least, Obama's deviations have served only to invite occasional cries of hypocrisy from some Republicans and infrequent grumbles of disappointment from some Democrats. He has popularity on his side, and it seems people mostly are chalking up his moves to much-needed flexibility at a difficult time.

Yeah. Damning. Smiley: laugh

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#19 Mar 23 2009 at 8:08 AM Rating: Good

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Oh look, the Dow is up 200 points this morning. This must be Bush's final influence on the US; investors are pleased he is seeking $300 million for his library.

However, when it inevitably drops again in the afternoon, it is more proof that Obama's honeymoon is still over.

#20 Mar 23 2009 at 4:34 PM Rating: Decent

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Gallup's approval numbers for Obama are at 64% and have been hovering in the 60-65% range for the last month or so. So, no, I don't think support for him has significantly dropped off.

Gallup is one of the few polling sources showing this though Joph. Most show him dropping significantly between February and March, and we're still assessing the effect the last week's debacle caused. In another week, we'll get a clearer picture.

Gallup released a big report about how his numbers were better than Bush and Clinton's at this time during their first year, but Rasmussen has the exact opposite report. For a guy running on a wave of popularity, that's not super encouraging. I'd hardly point to "But he's still polling well" as a strong defense of his administration. His administration has managed to lurch from one misstep to another over the last couple months. I think Obama is finding out that hard way that actually running the White House is a lot harder than simply campaigning for the position...

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#21 Mar 23 2009 at 4:48 PM Rating: Excellent

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Gallup is one of the few polling sources showing this though Joph. Most show him dropping significantly between February and March

No.

Since January, his average approval ratings have wavered between 60-65% which is where they are now at 61.2%. I'm not sure what you call a "significant drop" but from his highest peak in February he's lost 4.2%.

If this was an election poll, you'd be yelling about how 4.2% means nothing! and declaring it within the MOE and therefore meaningless. Now it's a "significant drop" Smiley: laugh

Oh, and Rasmussen has been consistantly polling low. Unfortunately, unlike elections where you get a definite chance to see who's right and who's wrong, there's no great way to test for accuracy in approval polling. But Rasmussen definately runs lower than the average and has consistantly. No big deal but there ya go.

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gbaji wrote:

Jophiel wrote:

Gallup's approval numbers for Obama are at 64% and have been hovering in the 60-65% range for the last month or so. So, no, I don't think support for him has significantly dropped off.

Gallup is one of the few polling sources showing this though Joph. Most show him dropping significantly between February and March, and we're still assessing the effect the last week's debacle caused. In another week, we'll get a clearer picture.

Gallup released a big report about how his numbers were better than Bush and Clinton's at this time during their first year, but Rasmussen has the exact opposite report. For a guy running on a wave of popularity, that's not super encouraging. I'd hardly point to "But he's still polling well" as a strong defense of his administration. His administration has managed to lurch from one misstep to another over the last couple months. I think Obama is finding out that hard way that actually running the White House is a lot harder than simply campaigning for the position...

See, I know you're completely blind to this, but compared to most peoples perspective on what was happening for the last 8 years, this has been smooth sailing.

It's amusing to me that according to you while bush dealt with difficult situations, Obama lurches from misstep to misstep.

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#23 Mar 23 2009 at 5:02 PM Rating: Excellent

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Also, to steal a point made by Nate Silver a couple weeks ago, Obama won the presidency with 53% of the national vote. To be running ~10% higher than that in approval is doing very well and slippage towards that 53% "anchor" is to be expected.

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Gallup is one of the few polling sources showing this though Joph. Most show him dropping significantly between February and March

No.

Since January, his average approval ratings have wavered between 60-65% which is where they are now at 61.2%. I'm not sure what you call a "significant drop" but from his highest peak in February he's lost 4.2%.

You're only looking at the approval numbers. I wasn't clear. I was mostly looking at the spread between approve and disapprove. You're correct that his approval numbers have stayed more or less constant (although they have trended slightly downward), but his disapproval ratings have climbed steadily.

The spread is the number that has dropped massively. And that's the more significant number.

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Also, to steal a point made by Nate Silver a couple weeks ago, Obama won the presidency with 53% of the national vote. To be running ~10% higher than that in approval is doing very well and slippage towards that 53% "anchor" is to be expected.

Apples and oranges.

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And that's the more significant number.

Not really, no. Although those have been bouncing in the same range over the last month as well.

I'll be charitable and guess that you just don't know what the words "massive" and "significant" mean.

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