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#1 Mar 18 2009 at 8:27 AM Rating: Good
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PLEASE help me. I love my new job with my old boss. I worked for him 13 years ago when I was beginning my paralegal career. I have no problem transitioning into this job. I know his work habits and I'm getting the office procedures down and established for a smoother system. I'm figuring out his clients and matters and what needs to be dealt with.

But I'm having a ******* problem with making the coffee. Please give me instructions on how to make 10 cups of coffee using a basic coffee maker. We have whole beans that I can grind, as well as ground coffee ready for making coffee.

How much coffee to how much water? I'm putting in cold water and I remembered to put in the coffee filter. Step by step instructions and rate ups for all who can give me coffee-making tips.
#2 Mar 18 2009 at 8:31 AM Rating: Excellent
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Standard coffee maker?

Decide how much coffee you're making. Fill the pot to that marked level (i.e. 8 cups). Place filter in maker in the appropriate place. Add one rounded tablespoon of grounds per cup (i.e. 8 tablespoons). Add water to reservoir. Put pot on heating element. Flip switch.

That's assuming a typical coffee maker & a can of grounds.
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#3 Mar 18 2009 at 8:34 AM Rating: Good
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Standard coffee maker?

Decide how much coffee you're making. Fill the pot to that marked level (i.e. 8 cups). Place filter in maker in the appropriate place. Add one rounded tablespoon of grounds per cup (i.e. 8 tablespoons). Add water to reservoir. Put pot on heating element. Flip switch.

That's assuming a typical coffee maker & a can of grounds.


Did that and the coffee came out like tar. I ended up cleaning out the coffee maker as it looks like someone (not me) didn't use a filter because coffee grounds were landing in the coffee pot.

I'll make another pot and see how it turns out.

Thanks, Joph. I suppose I could rate you up, but not like it affects you. Smiley: laugh
#4 Mar 18 2009 at 8:35 AM Rating: Excellent
Depends on the strength of coffee (Columbian, French Roast, etc). Averages is one rounded tablespoon per cup to one heaping tablespoon per 2 cups.

FYI, some coffee makers have a horrible steam/evaporation issue, where you'll put 12 cups of water in, and it will only brew 10. Results in stronger coffee, I'd run a pot of water through it to see if this affects your coffee maker (if anyone asks, say it cleans the percolator)...this will give you an idea of any balancing you need to compensate for.

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Edited, Mar 18th 2009 12:38pm by Ryneguy
#5 Mar 18 2009 at 8:37 AM Rating: Good
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You know, since we started grinding our own beans, I don't think we've ever bothered to measure the amount we use, but I suspect it would be less than the amount of pre-ground coffee used, because coffee from fresh-ground beans seems to be stronger than pre-ground coffee. It's been about a decade since I used pre-ground coffee, but I seem to recall the measurement being about 4-5 tablespoons of grounds for a 10-cup pot. I could be off on that, however. Like I said, it's been a long time.

Without knowing your specific grinder, I can't really tell you what to shoot for as far as the amount of beans to use, but I do know that the "max fill" line on some grinders is WAYYYYY too much for a 10-cup pot of coffee.

We have this model of grinder and the perfect amount of beans is enough to fill the bowl up to where the metal base portion ends and the clear plastic portion begins. If we go to the max fill line, the coffee turns out to be so strong it's totally unpotable.

Weather or not you have a wide, shallow basket or a cone-shaped basket may also make a difference in how much coffee you need to use.
#6 Mar 18 2009 at 8:39 AM Rating: Excellent
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Have you considered reading the brewing instructions on the side of the ground coffee container? There's your guideline, now adjust based on feedback you overhear.
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#7 Mar 18 2009 at 8:40 AM Rating: Excellent
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Thumbelyna Quick Hands wrote:
Did that and the coffee came out like tar. I ended up cleaning out the coffee maker as it looks like someone (not me) didn't use a filter because coffee grounds were landing in the coffee pot.
Weird. What goes on inside is just that the water is heated, forced up onto the cup of grounds, drains through the grounds, picking up their flavor, the filter keeps the grounds where they belong and the newly born coffee-water pours into the pot. There's not a whole lot of places for something to go wrong.

I'm always a little baffled by how someone can make a truely miserable cup of coffee just because the standard method of making it is pretty foolproof and standard. But if someone fucked up the coffee maker, well, there ya go. Reading Ryne's post, do you wind up with a full pot of tar-water or a half pot?
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#8 Mar 18 2009 at 8:43 AM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
Thumbelyna Quick Hands wrote:
Did that and the coffee came out like tar. I ended up cleaning out the coffee maker as it looks like someone (not me) didn't use a filter because coffee grounds were landing in the coffee pot.
Weird. What goes on inside is just that the water is heated, forced up onto the cup of grounds, drains through the grounds, picking up their flavor, the filter keeps the grounds where they belong and the newly born coffee-water pours into the pot. There's not a whole lot of places for something to go wrong.


Sometimes there is a problem with the filter folding over which can cause grinds to overflow the rim of the filter. This might have happened at some point and resulted in grinds being stuck to your filter basket and thus getting flushed into your coffee when brewing subsequent pots.

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Maybe. I'm not blaming Thumb. I do think that if any of us got two minutes to look at it, we'd probably solve the mystery but we're just computernetz people.
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#10 Mar 18 2009 at 8:45 AM Rating: Excellent
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Have you considered reading the brewing instructions on the side of the ground coffee container? There's your guideline, now adjust based on feedback you overhear.


Did you just RTFM Thumb?

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#11 Mar 18 2009 at 8:47 AM Rating: Good
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Maybe. I'm not blaming Thumb. I do think that if any of us got two minutes to look at it, we'd probably solve the mystery but we're just computernetz people.


I agree. Every grinder/brewer combo has its own little nuances that no one else can really appreciate. It does seem likely that if Thumb is having this much trouble, however, some previous user screwed something up.
#12 Mar 18 2009 at 8:50 AM Rating: Excellent
If you have a kitchen scale, I've found 50 grams to be the perfect amount. This is also roughly the amount that single pot grounds come packed in.
#13 Mar 18 2009 at 8:57 AM Rating: Excellent
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make your boss buy a Keurig. Problem solved.

http://www.keurig.com/

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#14 Mar 18 2009 at 9:08 AM Rating: Excellent
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Use cold water, filtered if available (if you have a water cooler, that's good). Ten cups of water to a rounded half cup scoop of coffee grounds. If there are grounds in the machine, trying cleaning it. Run a solution of half white distilled vinegar and half water through the machine, followed by another cycle of just water to rinse it.

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#15 Mar 18 2009 at 9:19 AM Rating: Good
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You guys kill me. I've wasted 2 hours of figuring out the coffee maker and since I bill out at $150 an hour, that means I just wasted $300 on coffee. Ran over to the local coffee shop and bought one of those disposable carafes filled with coffee. That'll get me through until this afternoon when I can figure out what the hell is going on.

I think the filters are too big for these coffee pot because the filters get scrunched down when I close the lid. So I'll have to just cut those filters down a bit before I insert them.

I rinsed out the machine 5 times before the water would run out clear so I know that the machine was just unbelievably filthy to begin with.
#16 Mar 18 2009 at 9:29 AM Rating: Excellent
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Who the hell uses spoons to measure out coffee??

I have a standard coffee maker. I fill the water up to the 6 cup line and pour it in. Then I measure out 3 level-to-heaping coffee scoops. Works like a charm.

I should make more now.
#17 Mar 18 2009 at 9:33 AM Rating: Excellent
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Nadenu wrote:
Who the hell uses spoons to measure out coffee??

I have a standard coffee maker. I fill the water up to the 6 cup line and pour it in. Then I measure out 3 level-to-heaping coffee scoops. Works like a charm.

I should make more now.


We use spoons to measure coffee at work. The only problem is that there is some variation in what is deemed "strong" coffee. Some people put in 3 to 4 scoops, others put in coffee till the filter cannot accept any more. I swear the coffee gave me a caffeine rush headache one morning Smiley: laugh

Thumb, good luck working it out Smiley: smile
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make your boss buy a Keurig. Problem solved.
They had one of those at a resort Flea & I stayed at recently. We weren't impressed by the end result. And this is coming from a guy whose means of getting coffee in the morning involves pressing A-4 on the machine in the breakroom.
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#19 Mar 18 2009 at 9:58 AM Rating: Good
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Lady DSD wrote:
make your boss buy a Keurig. Problem solved.
They had one of those at a resort Flea & I stayed at recently. We weren't impressed by the end result. And this is coming from a guy whose means of getting coffee in the morning involves pressing A-4 on the machine in the breakroom.


They probably only stocked crappy coffee. It's not just the machine itself that makes it great, although a piping hot fresh cup of coffee every 30 seconds is nothing to scoff at. It's also the wide variety of coffee brands. I've had a couple of brands offered I was no where near impressed at (Cheaper per kcup) but the majority of brands and flavors are very good.

Plus, if you're working in an office, I figure everyone would be hapy to be able to find their favorite flavor of the month.
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Nadenu wrote:
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#21 Mar 18 2009 at 10:01 AM Rating: Good
The Keurig's are actually pretty nice. I have two family members who have them and the coffee is always very good. I've been considering getting one myself, but it's not in the cards right now until my work gives a green light to overtime again for some extra spending cash. But yea, no complaints here...I would imagine there are "generic" brands of those little single serving cups, so probably brand dependent if the coffee was bad.
#22 Mar 18 2009 at 10:14 AM Rating: Good
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I like my Keurig. I have one at home and at work and order directly from Green Mountain Coffee. They make a very good cup of coffee. I get Double Black Diamond b/c I like coffee so dark, you can't see light anywhere within a hundred feet of my cup.
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I like my Keurig. I have one at home and at work and order directly from Green Mountain Coffee. They make a very good cup of coffee. I get Double Black Diamond b/c I like coffee so dark, you can't see light anywhere within a hundred feet of my cup.


We have one at work as well, order Green Mountain directly as well.

The Breakfast Blend is a good mild coffee as well as the Colombian Fair Trade (digging this recently). The Sumatra blend is fairly tasty for a bold cofee.

#24 Mar 18 2009 at 11:19 AM Rating: Decent
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Thumbelyna Quick Hands wrote:
I've wasted 2 hours of figuring out the coffee maker and since I bill out at $150 an hour, that means I just wasted $300 on coffee.


It's not a waste if it leads to a good cup of coffee.
#25 Mar 18 2009 at 11:22 AM Rating: Good
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Make sure you are only using one filter at a time. Doubling them up can cause it to flood over the top and dribble grounds all over.
#26 Mar 18 2009 at 11:52 AM Rating: Good
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Thumbelyna Quick Hands wrote:

I think the filters are too big for these coffee pot because the filters get scrunched down when I close the lid. So I'll have to just cut those filters down a bit before I insert them.


This could also be the cause of the grounds in the coffee you mentioned. As I mentioned before, sometimes the sides of filters can fold over so that they are laying atop the grounds, especially if they are improperly positioned to begin with and then the weight of the water soaking the paper just causes them to droop down. When this happens, the filter basket can overflow.

Trimming the filters down might not solve the problem of them being an improper fit for your filter basket. Check your manual to see what the proper size filter should be (for instance, #4). If you can't find the manual and if the filter basket is removable, take it with you to someplace like Peet's Coffee and Tea and ask for help (Peet's is usually a lot less snooty about such things than Starbucks) or maybe someplace that sells small appliances and accessories, like Bed Bath & Beyond.

Or, you know, scrap the cheap filthy coffee maker and get a better one. You can usually get a decent coffee maker in the $40-80 range. Our Farberwear brewer was around $50 iirc. Not top of the line, but decent. For something nicer, like the Cuisinart Grind & Brew (built in grinder!) or something with a thermal carafe, expect to pay a bit more.
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