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#1 Mar 17 2009 at 6:00 AM Rating: Excellent
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7940396.stm

Hungry whales steal birds' dinner
By Rebecca Morelle
Science reporter, BBC News

The birds' bait ball becomes a bite-sized snack for a hungry humpback

Humpback whales have come up with a novel way for getting an easy snack - stealing birds' dinners.

A BBC crew filmed seabirds carefully corralling unwieldy shoals of herring into tightly packed "bait balls" from which the fish are easy to pluck.

But they discovered that passing whales would wait for the birds to complete their hard graft before devouring the ball of fish in a single gulp.

The team said this was the first time they had seen this behaviour.

The footage, filmed off the coast of North America, forms part of the BBC wildlife series Nature's Great Events: The Great Feast.

Fish banquet

The team witnessed the whales' crafty behaviour as they set up to film vast shoals of herring as they gathered to feed on plankton blooms. The whale came in and scooped up the whole thing in pretty much one gulp - mouth open, whoosh, and the whole thing was gone

Joe Stevens, producer

While the fish feast, diving birds also congregate, eyeing an opportunity for their own fishy banquet.

Joe Stevens, a producer on the programme, said: "Murres (a type of guillemot) dive under the shoal and whittle it down into a ball of fish, using the surface of the water to contain it. They dart around it, picking off the fish.

"Other seabirds like gulls then come in to get bits of the bait balls."

But while the team expected to capture this spectacle on camera, they were unprepared for what came next.

Mr Stevens explained: "We had a cameraman in the water - and we started to notice lots of whales.

"And we thought: 'What would happen if the whales got interested in these balls of fish?' And then the whales did get interested.
Humpbacks migrate from Hawaii to reach the fish feast

"One came in and scooped up the whole thing in pretty much one gulp - mouth open, whoosh, and the whole thing was gone."

It was a bit of a shock for the underwater cameraman, he added.

Mr Stevens said the crew witnessed the humpbacks scoffing the bite-sized bait balls several times.

He said: "It was like the whales had noticed what the birds were doing, and let the birds do all the hard work of creating the balls of fish so they could then come in to scoop them up."

He added: "You have to take your hat off to them - it is when you see them doing things like that, you realise that they are really very very clever and that they are aware of their environment and what is going on."

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The four whales launch a co-ordinated attack on the huge sea lion

While filming the series, the Natural History Unit crew also captured another rare event on film - a clash between four killer whales (orcas) and a one-tonne Steller's sea lion.

The footage shows the whales launching a co-ordinated attack on the lone male, eventually beating it to death.
Smaller sea lions often fall prey to whale attacks

While attacks on smaller sea lions are common, it is rare for whales to take on such an enormous and therefore potentially dangerous creature.

Mr Stevens said: "The males can be absolutely massive - about one-tonne in weight - and they have got really big teeth. For an orca, a bite from one of those big sea lions could be fatal.

"But in this case, this male sea lion was out in open water, and for whatever reason they came across him and decided to attack."

The team filmed the killer whale family as they set about their assault.

Mr Stevens said: "The whales would come through as a pair, one would be slightly in front and would distract the sea lion's attention so he would look one way, and then the second one would hit him.

"Basically they were trying to beat him up to tire him out and wear him down. They would leave him for a few minutes and then come back and continue with the onslaught, before eventually taking him underwater to feast."

Mr Stevens said it was difficult to film the sea lion's ordeal.

He said: "Both of those creatures were doing what they do - in one way you feel amazingly privileged to see it and film it, but to actually witness it in the flesh is actually quite harrowing."

Nature's Great Events: The Great Feast on Wednesday 18 March on BBC One at 2100 GMT and is repeated on Sunday at 1800 GMT

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#2 Mar 17 2009 at 6:05 AM Rating: Decent
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It's quite possible that the birds deliberately rounded up the fish for the express purpose of feeding the whales.
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#3 Mar 17 2009 at 6:06 AM Rating: Excellent
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What the hell? Can't whales read?

What's the point off all those 'Please don't beach yourself' signs then?
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#4 Mar 17 2009 at 8:59 AM Rating: Decent
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Whale that does it!
#5 Mar 17 2009 at 10:50 AM Rating: Decent
So I didn't know birds could round up fish into a bait ball. It would seem the fish could get away by just swimming down. Who knew?

Near here, in ventura harbor, they have a large group (pod?) of common dolphins which live between the coast and the channel islands (California, not England). They round up fish into bait balls and the birds strike the water living off the hard work of the dolphins. From a distance, it appears as if the sea is just boiling in that region due to the massive activity. You can go whale watching here and they'll try to get you to see some whales but you're pretty much ensured of seeing the dolphins which to most people's minds is more spectacular. They get close enough to the boat that you can hear them call while they are airborne.
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I was out surfing a few days ago, and the local gannet colony happenned along and started rounding up a bait ball.

Within 5 minutes we (me and about 5 other surfers) were surrounded by leaping fish and diving birds and the water was boiling with frenzied activity.

It was all very amusing until I got a 5lb kahawai straight to the side of my head as it came to join the slaughter.

It was all over in 10 minutes and there were no whales this time, but occasionaly a small pod of Hectors dolphins that lives around here comes and joins in.
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Other larger whales (humpbacks?) will circle around blowing bubbles, trapping fish in a column, then swim straight up the column devouring the fish till they get to the surface.
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Whale that does it!


You're trying to orca strate something here, I can feel it.


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Whale that does it!


You're trying to orca strate something here, I can feel it.
Tried. But it's a dead fish.
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#13 Mar 17 2009 at 8:58 PM Rating: Good
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I'm sure whales don't steal fish from birds that often, it's just a fluke.

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It's the birds' fault for being so gullible.
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